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re: Dan Carlin Hardcore History Addendum - History on Fire

Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:32 pm to
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What's your favorite flavor crayon?


Probably pinko
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:38 pm to
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So by literal definition, Nazis are right wing.


I saw absolutely nothing there saying that they were right wing.

Calling them right wing is another one of those if you say it enough, it becomes true. How very Nazi of you.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:39 pm to
Share more of your leftist revisionism. We are waiting.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:43 pm to
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National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/'n??tsi?z?m, 'næt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party—officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP)—in Nazi Germany, and of other far-right groups with similar aims.


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Fascism (/'fæ??z?m/) is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][


Yall are literally children sitting there putting your fingers in your ears because you dont like what you're hearing. How childish can you be?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:52 pm to
Tell me, what made the nazis or fascists right wing?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:52 pm to
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Yall are literally children sitting there putting your fingers in your ears because you dont like what you're hearing. How childish can you be?


Right wing on social issues. Left wing economically.

They were not liberal, but neither is Americas left wingers. Socialists are authoritarians.

You are just googling links that support your view without understanding what they mean.

Nazis were econonically leftists.

Socialism is an economic term
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:54 pm to
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Calling them right wing is another one of those if you say it enough, it becomes true.


Correct. They were leftists, economically. He doesnt get it.

LINK

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But what specifically established de factosocialism in Nazi Germany was the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936.


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For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive.
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:57 pm to
Boy this thread took off in a hurry
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 7:58 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 7:58 pm to
I'm just arguing against the posters that were claiming Nazis were left wing. It was a topic in the podcast, of which the author agrees with me. Well, both of them actually. Who are both historians.

There weren't left wing economically either. If you has bothered to read some of the other material I posted earlier, you would see why that is.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:01 pm to
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I'm just arguing against the posters that were claiming Nazis were left wing. 


Economically, 100%. Its impossible to argue otherwise.

So were communists, who were more draconian than Nazis.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:03 pm to
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There weren't left wing economically either.


You're an ignorant child.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:05 pm to
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You're an ignorant child.


Your ignorance on economics is well covered on this board.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:06 pm to
What was Hitlers economic policies? Tia

I'm sure you're furiously googling left wing propaganda
This post was edited on 6/29/19 at 8:09 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:12 pm to
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The German economy, like those of many other western nations, suffered the effects of the Great Depression with unemployment soaring around the Wall Street Crash of 1929.[1] When Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany in 1933, he introduced policies aimed at improving the economy. The changes included privatization of state industries, autarky, and tariffs on imports.


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The Nazi government developed a partnership with leading German business interests, who supported the goals of the regime and its war effort in exchange for advantageous contracts, subsidies, and the suppression of the trade union movement.[10] Cartels and monopolies were encouraged at the expense of small businesses, even though the Nazis had received considerable electoral support from small business owners.[11]


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Among the slave labourers in the occupied territories, hundreds of thousands were used by leading German corporations including Thyssen, Krupp, IG Farben, Bosch, Blaupunkt, Daimler-Benz, Demag, Henschel, Junkers, Messerschmitt, Siemens, and Volkswagen, as well as Dutch corporation Philips.[13] By 1944, slave labour made up one quarter of Germany's entire work force, and the majority of German factories had a contingent of prisoners.[14]


Oops, looks like Roger is talking out of his arse again about economics. Shocking.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:13 pm to
And not a link to be found....
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:18 pm to
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This is the clown who gets bent out of shape it you call him a leftists.


Yeah I called him out last night. He wants so badly to be an independent and he’s so proud of his unique idea that both parties suck, yet he’s just a liberal.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:21 pm to
"If I say it enough it must be true."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:23 pm to
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Oops, looks like Roger is talking out of his arse again about economics. Shocking. 


Central planning
price and wage controls
Universal insurance

None of these are right wing

Gregor Strasser, Nazi party spokesman:

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We are Socialists, enemies, mortal enemies of the present capitalist economic system with its exploitation of the economically weak, with its injustice in wages, with its immoral evaluation of individuals according to wealth and money instead of responsibility and achievement, and we are determined under all circumstances to abolish this system!





Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:24 pm to
Dude, you’re sitting here trying to tell us that Hitler was some right wing, small government guy. You’re so laughably wrong about it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/29/19 at 8:24 pm to
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I say it enough it must be true." 


You're just randomly googling and have no idea what your posting.
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