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re: Dallas PD Guyger Trial: Guilty of Murder..Sentence to 10years in prison
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:06 pm to 1BamaRTR
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:06 pm to 1BamaRTR
anyone who focuses solely on the "she made an oopsie going into the wrong apartment!" is being pretty dishonest
if that's all that happened, nobody (including her family, likely) would have ever heard about this story
if that's all that happened, nobody (including her family, likely) would have ever heard about this story
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:06 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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Yeah, you’re a perfect human being, and have never walked up to the wrong car coming out of an airport, never got off at the wrong floor of a parking garage, never walked into the wrong room, never taken a wrong turn, nothing?
I mean, not really. I'm pretty hyper aware of my surroundings.
But I'll play along and indulge you. Is the most logical next sentence in your example "walked in and pulled a gun on the first person you saw and killed them"?
I would think most people would realize they're in the wrong place before they do that. But carry on with your retarded devil's advocate take.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:07 pm to 1BamaRTR
Here’s my point: if she’d walked into her apartment, saw someone whom she perceived as an intruder, shot him and killed him, then almost no one on the board would have a problem with it.
The only significant difference I see in this case is that she accidentally walked into the wrong fricking apartment. If you take that action to be an accident, then how can you assign “murder” to her other actions in this case but not the hypothetical? She thought she was walking into her apartment, thought the intruder was a threat, and shot him. (Unless you think she’s lying about all of that.)
Now, if people want to argue that her actions after the shooting amounted to some sort of criminal negligence (failure to render aid, etc.) then I’m probably going to be easily swayed.
The only significant difference I see in this case is that she accidentally walked into the wrong fricking apartment. If you take that action to be an accident, then how can you assign “murder” to her other actions in this case but not the hypothetical? She thought she was walking into her apartment, thought the intruder was a threat, and shot him. (Unless you think she’s lying about all of that.)
Now, if people want to argue that her actions after the shooting amounted to some sort of criminal negligence (failure to render aid, etc.) then I’m probably going to be easily swayed.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:07 pm to TH03
you mean after common mistakes, proving that you're not perfect, your next move isn't to pull and shoot?
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What is the Mens rea?
I know this isn't your point, but how about this:
"If I see someone unexpected in my apartment, I'll do my best to ascertain what's up and protect myself legally... unless it's a big scary black dude, in which case I'll blow his brains out!"
I work with a very slight, unimposing young lady who had a man stumble into her apartment by mistake. She does have a gun, and yet somehow she refrained from shooting this man and instead got him out of the apartment in a calm, reasonable manner. That is not too much to ask.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:08 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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Here’s my point: if she’d walked into her apartment, saw someone whom she perceived as an intruder, shot him and killed him, then almost no one on the board would have a problem with it.
well yeah
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The only significant difference I see in this case is that she accidentally walked into the wrong fricking apartment.
your use of "significant" isn't significant enough. perhaps some bold and/or underline, possibly caps, would help
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:10 pm to SlapahoeTribe
It’s not murder or not guilty. She can be prosecuted on lesser charge.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:11 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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She thought she was walking into her apartment
Being dumb isn't a defense.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:12 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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She thought she was walking into her apartment
Oh well, it's okay! She thought it was her place! That excuses her shooting him.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:15 pm to GetCocky11
It's the Dave Chapelle "I'm sorry officer I...didn't know I couldn't do that" defense.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:you know, some people did something
your use of "significant" isn't significant enough. perhaps some bold and/or underline, possibly caps, would help
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:19 pm to TH03
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It's the Dave Chapelle "I'm sorry officer I...didn't know I couldn't do that" defense.
More like “Apparently this n!@@3r broke in here and hung up pictures of his family everywhere”.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:20 pm to Commandeaux
Sprinkle some crack on him. 
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:24 pm to Ross
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if she gets off I’ll have lost an immense amount of respect for our judicial system
I live in Dallas.
I grew up with law enforcement members in my direct family as well and typically give them the benefit of the doubt at least until all the evidence is out there.
If this woman walks I won’t blame a single person that protests. I can’t see a single explanation that describes a clean shoot here and the people saying she should walk are insane imo.
I would have no problem if they lock her up and throw away the key.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:26 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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quote: walking into the wrong apartment and killing someone isn’t negligent, then what the hell is? What is the Mens rea?
Holy shite you are embarrassing yourself
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:39 pm to McCaigBro69
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the people saying she should walk are insane imo.
Is anybody actually saying she should walk?
I'm in law enforcement (US Marshal) and I think she should do time, probably about 10-12 years for manslaughter.
Murder requires intent, more than a split-second idiotic decision. Her actions afterward are more puzzling and damning than those leading up to the actual shooting, but once you've seen the variety of ways people deal with shock nothing is surprising or out of the question.
I don't know any LEOs that would've done what she did or responded the way she did, so don't condemn us all. It IS important, however, to remember that it's still a regular human in that uniform. We make mistakes and do horribly stupid, inexplicable things sometimes.
She doesn't deserve to walk, but this wasn't cold-blooded murder either.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:42 pm to RazorBroncs
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I think she should do time, probably about 10-12 years for manslaughter.
i reckon almost every person saying she is guilty would be fine with that
everyone understands this isn't premeditated and/or cold-blooded murder. nobody's saying she should get life or the needle
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:45 pm to SlapahoeTribe
I waked into the wrong classroom once in college and came so close to shooting a classmate
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
Read the thread, there's plenty saying she should be in for life or "locked up and throw away the key."
ETA even the post I was originally responding to said:
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I would have no problem if they lock her up and throw away the key.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 7:51 pm to SlapahoeTribe
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this - even the man’s neighbor, a witness for the prosecution, admitted that it had happened to him before.
I don’t understand how this is used as a defense for the cop.
It seems we can all agree that the apartment complex is very uniform and it can be easy to end up at the wrong room.
With that being the case, doesn’t it make it even MORE negligent that the officer was so trigger happy in this situation? I mean she is in a complex where she knows it can be easy to get confused. She should have at least some stream of thought that maybe she’s in the wrong place before she starts shooting people
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