re: CVS to sell heroin overdose antidote

What are the side effects of administering this drug if the person is not on heroin? I can see a scenario where a panicking mom thinks her passed out kid is high on heroin when he/she is just passed out drunk and she gives the kid a dose of this stuff.

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OxyContin was not written all that often, and even if it was, we (pharmacists) never really filled it because we knew how bad the shite was being abused and plus the shite was really, really expensive to keep in stock....

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Regardless of what pain someone was going through you (pharmacist) knew best

Do you always contradict yourself? pump the brakes there pharmD reading through your drivel on this matter scares the frick out of me that you are a dr of pharmacy. are you typical Jesus freak that wants to judge everyone that brings in a script? If that's the case maybe you should have been a MD so you can dictate from the source & not from the pharmacist.
& 60 & 80 mg la oxy had more of an impact vs 7.5 or 10 mg of hydrocodone

Nothing. I have given it many times when the pt ended up not having opiates on board. It's a first line drug for Unexplained Med code on a young adult.

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What are the side effects of administering this drug if the person is not on heroin

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Nothing. It's perfectly safe for anyone that isn't on opiate.

That's why it's readily available OTC.

This is neat. Maybe I'll try using heroin sometime.

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Regardless of what pain someone was going through you (pharmacist) knew best

Do you always contradict yourself? pump the brakes there pharmD reading through your drivel on this matter scares the frick out of me that you are a dr of pharmacy. are you typical Jesus freak that wants to judge everyone that brings in a script? If that's the case maybe you should have been a MD so you can dictate from the source & not from the pharmacist.
& 60 & 80 mg la oxy had more of an impact vs 7.5 or 10 mg of hydrocodone

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sorry for denying your OxyContin script...

but after a while of seeing the same broke down arse people coming in for the same shite, you sorta put two and two together... i'd say out 8 outta 10 Rx's for OxyContin, back in the day, were going to doctor shoppers, not to your actual pain patient... and besides, the cost was the main prohibitive factor, much more so than the blatant misuse you just knew was going on...

most of us good pharmacists, when we do have to tell patients that we don't have something they are being prescribed in stock, give them options that either we can call the physician for or they can get the physician to rewrite the script for... and no, its not something like going from Percocet to IBU...

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My fear is that the "antidote" will create a false sense of security

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as someone who spent time addicted to the stuff, someone who has had their life saved by narcan, someone who has saved someone they loved with narcan, someone who has lost a SO from OD.... I can tell you that no one is going to take extra amounts thinking they will just use narcan if needed. No one wants to be hit with narcan, although most true addicts are addicts because they love toeing that line...... But having access to narcan, even if it's just for the girlfriends who's bf is trying his best to be clean but she is scared he may have a slip up, or the mom and dad who's little senior girl is battling addiction. Or the local RTA bus driver that is always picking up and dropping off street kid junkies....
Narcan being available has a million pros and not many cons.



For the people that mentioned how the junkies will wake up pissed off that their high is gone, yeah it isn't like that..... When someone dies and is brought back to life, it's a surreal feeling and it's not like it completely eliminates the drug from you to where you are stone cold sober. Hard to explain, but I promise no one will be bitching that they have another chance at living and possibly getting high again I suppose.

Damn Uncle Bush

I was just trying to give my first hand experience on some of the stuff comsidering there were several questions in the thread where people seemed honestly curious....


Wasn't trying to completely interject myself into it for any other reasons..... shite the stuff I posted is actually a little embarrassing. But it's some lessons learned fortunately

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shite the stuff I posted is actually a little embarrassing.

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let be honest a heroine addiction is not even in the top 10 most embarrassing things we've learned about posters from the OT

Peeej alone accounts for 4 of the top 10 things you shouldn't admit to a message board