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Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:05 pm to
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but I need a prescription for birth control pills


You should need a prescription for birth control pills. There are so many different types available. You need to be in the care of a physician that can know about your basic health, know about any other medical conditions you have....to know the best birth control pills to put you on.



Also...birth control pills are NOT always a good option for every woman. Ex: Women that smoke...bc pills + smoking can result in blood clots that could cause strokes.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:05 pm to
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I don't think people will become "more addicted" because of it.


You get it
Posted by lsuoilengr
Member since Aug 2008
5330 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:12 pm to
War in Afghanistan. Record high opium output. Heroin spreading life wildfire thru America.... Wonder if these are connected?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120003 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:25 pm to
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You should need a prescription for birth control pills. There are so many different types available. You need to be in the care of a physician that can know about your basic health, know about any other medical conditions you have....to know the best birth control pills to put you on.



Also...birth control pills are NOT always a good option for every woman. Ex: Women that smoke...bc pills + smoking can result in blood clots that could cause strokes.




I do not know anything about this, but a female friend of mine (this was early 20s. maybe late teens) use to have lots of problems every month. The doctor wanted to put her on birth control, but her mom, who was (probably still is) an extremely conservative Catholic and she would not allow her to get the birth control pills (I must of been closer to my late teens since her mother was still making those decisions for her). Long story short, I just remember when she finally got on them it wasn't the fix all solution she thought.. At first. I think she there were several different types she had to take before she was able to "be normal".

Your comment just reminded me of that, which is probably a good example of why you should need a prescription.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120003 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:42 pm to
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War in Afghanistan. Record high opium output. Heroin spreading life wildfire thru America.... Wonder if these are connected?


Vietnam had a huge impact on the growth of exploration with drugs in the 60s, but the Americans going to Afghanistan today and becoming addicted then coming back home, is likely just a small percentage of the addicts in this country.

A few weeks ago I watched a special about addiction in America, hosted by Anderson Cooper. According to his special, while the US only makes up 5% of the world's population, it consumes 80% of pain meds manufactured. That number blew my mind.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18290 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:50 pm to
How about they start selling freaking albuterol OTC so every asthmatic doesn't come to the ER every week when they wheeze. Inhalers are still 50$+ and some people need them to breathe but without insurance can't afford it. Big pharm though, gotta make that money on Medications that are decades old
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:52 pm to
Best day in a while for SuperSaint.
Posted by John Cocktosten
Everywhere and Nowhere
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:54 pm to
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A few weeks ago I watched a special about addiction in America, hosted by Anderson Cooper. According to his special, while the US only makes up 5% of the world's population, it consumes 80% of pain meds manufactured. That number blew my mind.


There it is. This all goes back to pharmaceutical companies pushing the hell out of opioids for every little thing. Just ask the former head of the FDA:

Former FDA head: Opioid epidemic one of "great mistakes of modern medicine
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"FDA has responsibility, the pharmaceutical companies have responsibility, physicians have responsibility. We didn't see these drugs for what they truly are," Dr. Kessler said. From 1999 to 2014, sales of opioids quadrupled in the U.S. -- and so did the number of opioid-related overdose deaths, reports CBS News' Jim Axelrod.
Posted by CoachKlein
Ratchet City
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 8:56 pm to
Pharmaceuticals aren't making anyone do heroine
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85576 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:04 pm to
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War in Afghanistan. Record high opium output. Heroin spreading life wildfire thru America.... Wonder if these are connected?


No, it's kids get addicted to pills, heroin is cheaper and more potent. They shoot up heron instead of oxy, they overdose from not knowing potency.

But, I'm sure that's a way it gets over here. Smuggle it back in coffins.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
9627 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 9:08 pm
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:05 pm to
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A few weeks ago I watched a special about addiction in America, hosted by Anderson Cooper. According to his special, while the US only makes up 5% of the world's population, it consumes 80% of pain meds manufactured. That number blew my mind.


I saw that same special. Very interesting.


The doctors on the show mentioned how the treatment of pain in the 90s has a huge part in it. Doctors didn't want to ignore a patient's pain or not treat it enough. They were taught to make sure pain is being treated, so they would prescribe more pain meds.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85576 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:06 pm to
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Pharmaceuticals aren't making anyone do heroine


Yes they are. Kids and adults are hopped up on legal heroin and legal speed.
Posted by BamaFan70
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2009
1568 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:06 pm to
Hope it doesn't work.
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
35525 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:06 pm to
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A few weeks ago I watched a special about addiction in America, hosted by Anderson Cooper. According to his special, while the US only makes up 5% of the world's population, it consumes 80% of pain meds manufactured. That number blew my mind.



I watched this too. A friend called and told me that it was on. I couldn't believe the former NFL player (can't remember his name) was taking over 1,000 painkillers a month. That's a true functioning addict.
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
6891 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:10 pm to
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From what I hear from people working in the ER is that the addicts are ready to kill the staff for ruining their high.





I talked to a cop about it recently. He said he's personally seen 10 people saved by it in the last year. They can barely be breathing and 3/4 way dead and it brings them back.

He said they try to strap them down, because they come out in a rage ready to fight when they come up.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:19 pm to
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Pharmaceuticals aren't making anyone do heroine

there is DEFINITELY a correlation there... and i say this as someone who is experienced in both pharmacy and addiction...
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120003 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:31 pm to
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The doctors on the show mentioned how the treatment of pain in the 90s has a huge part in it. Doctors didn't want to ignore a patient's pain or not treat it enough. They were taught to make sure pain is being treated, so they would prescribe more pain meds.


Yeah, you remember when AC mentioned when he had surgery and the doctor asked him home many percocet he wanted.. 30 or 90? And like he said, his thought was "shouldn't you be the one to tell me that?".

I am not saying this as a general comment, but there are certain forms of pain people have that are treated with pain meds that could simply be treated by exercise. With my condition, if I allowed myself to not move, not be active (as in just being out and about) I would probably experience a lot of pain, but for anyone.. being more active your body produces natural "pain killers".

It seems like doctors ignore that. There are many situations in which I can see prescribing pain killers for a few days. I am sure in many cases, if thats what the patients are prescribed thats all they think they needs, then start to move on with life. But prescribing.. even 30. Within those few weeks I can see how people can start to become dependant on them.

For some reason, when they mentioned the part about doctors not wanting to ignore a patient's pain, I thought that was somewhat of an excuse. Just because there were people who were not being treated enough doesn't really justify handing pain pill prescriptions left and right. Did someone even mention they didn't know just how addictive they would be at first? For some reason I recall hearing that, but that sounds like total bullshite. Either way, it seems like that would also fall on the FDA.
Posted by Malik Agar
Member since Nov 2012
12076 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:33 pm to
You're a prick
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3242 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 9:36 pm to
PSA-narcan's half life is shorter than most opioids. Once it's administered medical help should still be sought. It works on any opioid. That includes oral pain meds and heroin. It can be inhaled or sprayed in the nose of a non breathing individual.
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