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re: Cuban Missile Crisis

Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Cali-to-Death Valley
SF Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:00 am to
Was in first grade. I remember they started teaching us "duck and cover" drills. (Although at that age, I really didn't comprehend what they were for. I just thought it was fun to get up, Conga line out of the classroom into an interior hallway, sit up against a wall with your head on your knees and your hands behind your head.) I learned as an adult, that my father was one month from his official separation from the military when he received notification that his unit was going to be activated. (He had served in Korea 1950-1952 and back then "Ready Reserve" was 10 years.) My mom was 8 months pregnant with my youngest brother.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22410 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:06 am to
That was my junior year at LSU - most of us drank a lot of beer to get through the crisis. It helped.

I recall this was about the time of the homecoming football game - the Dekes put up a sign, something like:

"Homecoming Decorations Hell, We're Building a Bomb Shelter."
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:10 am to
it was wretched from my point of view.

I figured Barksdale would be nuked first, last and often.

as for how close, it came out long after that a Soviet ship captain refused the order to break the embargo. i have no idea if its true but it was reported for a while.



Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33959 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:13 am to
Was born in January of 1959, and I don't remember it, but I do remember the chlorine barge that sunk in the Mississippi at Natchez around the same time, being a big deal. My dad worked at the mill in Natchez. I remember IP issuing gas masks to him, and my uncle. He left it on the seat of his 51' Chevy truck.

On TV and the radio, they advised the wearing of gas masks for anyone going outside. Pretty sure we stayed in for a couple of days.

The barge is still on the bottom of the river (2012 Natchez Democrat article)

ETA:

quote:

While it was the National Guard that was preparing people to evacuate in 1962, Owens said under the county’s plan now in place, Durham School Services — the company contracted to provide school bus services the Natchez public schools — and the Natchez Transit System would take the lead on an evacuation because those entities have the busses to do it.
Sounds like one of those jobs Halliburton should be getting paid for.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 11:20 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
106097 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:19 am to
quote:

as for how close, it came out long after that a Soviet ship captain refused the order to break the embargo. i have no idea if its true but it was reported for a while


IIRC what happened was that an American destroyer had a fix on a Russian submarine using active sonar. Russian SOP in that scenario was to fire a homing torpedo but the captain decided not to.

There was also a confrontation between a Russian convoy and the American blockade. The Rusdians turned around rather than try to run it.

The narrative at the time was that the Russians blinked. But some months later the US removed its missiles from Turkey which was what Russia wanted all along.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33959 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:22 am to
quote:

the US removed its missiles from Turkey which was what Russia wanted all along.


Now we have lots of armed drones watching them, and everyone else.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94725 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:23 am to
i remember hours and hours of black & white coverage of watergate as a kid.

i didnt understand why captain kangaroo and sesame street weren't on tv for months.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:40 am to
since the op and most posters were too young to feel the bite of near nuclear war, i offer perspective.

1. when i was 10, CBS carried live tv of nuclear tests in the west before nukes were only tested underground. i saw that with my breakfast cereal.

2. Local newspaper ran a feature when i was 12 of the kinds of damage that would happen in concentric circles from city center if a hydrogen bomb.
your house here ==> x.

3. my dad was a pilot. first in army during ww2. then drafted for korea stayed in. when i was in high school and college he was in a usaf unit that had small nuclear bombers in lake charles. tactical it was called.
the point of it seemed to me to be able to nuke cuba.

then the missile crisis happened.




This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 11:45 am
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15248 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:41 am to
Posted by TheEnglishman
On the road to Wellville
Member since Mar 2010
3312 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:47 am to
you should really listen to Dan Carlin's "destroyer of worlds" about the Cuban Missile crisis.

Its fantastic

LINK
Posted by JudgeRoyBean
West of the Pecos
Member since Jun 2018
538 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:05 pm to
I was too young to know what was going on.

That said, my dad, who was in his late 20's, said those few days were the most nervous he has even been in his life. Before or after.
Posted by JudgeRoyBean
West of the Pecos
Member since Jun 2018
538 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:07 pm to
Kennedy was also more popular the day after that fateful day in November 1963 than prior.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14866 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

One guy on a Russian sub in a vote basically saved us from war.



Saw that in a documentary a while back. Thank God this guy had a cool hand. We may not be typing this.

If he's still around, I'd love to buy him a beer or two and hear his story again.
Posted by Skin
Member since Jun 2007
6387 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:15 pm to
I didn't realize until I watched the movie that they actually shot down one of our fighter pilots. KIA. Hard to believe we held restraint from retaliating.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20393 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:21 pm to
I was 10 when it was going on and I remember a step-up in those silly "Duck & Cover" drills they did in the classrooms.

Like hiding under a flimsy wooden desk would actually save your arse in the event an atomic bomb went off in your vicinity-----and believe me, N.O. would have been a primary target with out port being one of the biggest in the States at that time.

I do remember the adults being very concerned because it was more or less a game of "Chicken and Who's Going To Blink First" to see how it unfolded. Luckily, Russia blinked and pulled out.
Posted by OmniPundit
Florida
Member since Sep 2018
1440 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:49 pm to
I was Lieutenant in an artillery battery on the top of a Korean mountain, overlooking the DMZ.

Things got pretty hectic.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by OmniPundit
Florida
Member since Sep 2018
1440 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

I do remember the adults being very concerned because it was more or less a game of "Chicken and Who's Going To Blink First" to see how it unfolded. Luckily, Russia blinked and pulled out.


You remember very well. "Who's Going To Blink First" was exactly what we who were deployed in Korea wondered. Or what if nobody blinked?
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 12:58 pm
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
27630 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:09 pm to
I heard the Russians put the missiles there because we put intermediate range nukes in Turkey. The deal agreed to was they removed the Cuban nukes and we agreed to remove the Turkey nukes. End result was Russia got what they wanted.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2864 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

The narrative at the time was that the Russians blinked. But some months later the US removed its missiles from Turkey which was what Russia wanted all along.

The Jupiter missiles in Turkey were outdated and scheduled for removal anyway.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
3373 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:50 pm to
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Hard to believe we held restraint from retaliating.


Might of had something to do with a war/recce bird flying over another country's airspace without permission....just maybe.

Kinda like when the Russians shot a U-2 down two years earlier that was flying well into/over Soviet airspace?

Of course if it wasn't for that then the CIA/Air Force wouldn't have gone back to Kelly Johnson and had his crew design the SR-71
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 3:54 pm
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