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re: Cruise Line Employees compared to Locals

Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:58 am to
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 10:58 am to
Well aren’t you just special.
Posted by La Squared
Southwest LA
Member since Feb 2012
559 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:42 am to
Read the book Cruise Confidential if you get a chance. American was a waiter for a year and shares stories from onboard. Gives some good insight to the living/working conditions for employees. Not something most Americans would want to partake in.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:43 am to
Depends on what you do. I know some ladies who handle shore excursions on board, it's a pretty sweet career for them
Posted by La Squared
Southwest LA
Member since Feb 2012
559 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:45 am to
Very true. He mentioned the art dealer on board had it made. The life of a server seemed very miserable.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24451 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:51 am to
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these employees also get free room and board


Not really though. Free room and board is a permanent place to live or at least semi permanent. Free room and board is what like the National Park and State Park employees get, they have a long term residence to live in. If you have to maintain a residence outside of the ship that's far from what I'd call free room and board.

I've never been on a cruise, but why are they working 10 hour shifts? They work all 3 meals?
This post was edited on 7/9/19 at 11:52 am
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
76146 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 11:53 am to
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Now, compare the high level, high touch service that these $5 an hour employees provide
Pics of the hers before I can make an valid opinion.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41636 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:21 pm to
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I've never been on a cruise, but why are they working 10 hour shifts? They work all 3 meals?


Generally, they work 20/21 meals a week. Usually one day a week they get lunch off, which will coincide with a port visit. Gives them a few hours to get off the boat, go do/buy something, etc.

One of the waiters we had (we were on my time dining so they were different each night) told me he worked every breakfast and dinner in the dining room, and 6 lunches a week there. He said his assistant waiter worked every morning in the buffet doing various things, every dinner in the dining room, and for her 6 lunch periods a day would split between helping in buffet and helping in main dining room.

The room stewards will often work a split shift, say 7 - noon and 4-9 pm, with them rotating covering the mid day break and the overnight. So you might get, on a 5 day cruise, one mid-shirt, and one half of an overnight shift.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41636 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 12:24 pm to
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Very true. He mentioned the art dealer on board had it made. The life of a server seemed very miserable.


The art dealers and some of the other positions (I think spa, shops, maybe a few others) actually work for other companies under contract to the cruise lines. Same with the comedians and some of the musicians. So they tend to be in more regular accomodations.

Among the crew employed directly, yeah, there is absolutely a caste system. They all work hard and work every day, but the cruise director staff, entertainment staff, guest services, etc, seem to have decent arrangements. The dining and housekeeping staff work hard in not great conditions. and then you have the people who wash dishes and linens.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 1:19 pm to
I find that very hard to believe. Granted these are international companies that rarely hire Americans for most positions. I worked on an American owned cruise ship for a brief time in the 1990’s. I would say the average dining room server made about $1500 per week. You work about six weeks on and had 2 weeks off. There was nothing on the boat you could spend money on whatsover and everything you ate was free. While lots of drinking happened, we weren’t allowed to do it.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:04 pm to
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I've never been on a cruise, but why are they working 10 hour shifts? They work all 3 meals?

There was some rotation, but mostly all F&B people worked 3 meals plus a late night buffet. Could be as much as 16 hours sometimes.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:19 pm to
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Living on a boat would get old quick
They can't wait to get to ports to at least get a chance to get off the boat
The travel part gets old too as you go to the same ports over and over




Yep, and on most cruise ships they're not allowed in areas where guests are when they're not on duty.

There used to be a SubReddit of former and current cruise ship workers sharing stories. May still be one.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:30 pm to
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On a 30 day month, that's 300 hours a month, which works out to about $5 an hour. In addition to their pay, of course, they get free room and board.


You know it has to be a 24/7 frickfest as well.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:31 pm to
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You know it has to be a 24/7 frickfest as well.


pretty much
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41636 posts
Posted on 7/9/19 at 2:48 pm to
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I find that very hard to believe. Granted these are international companies that rarely hire Americans for most positions. I worked on an American owned cruise ship for a brief time in the 1990’s. I would say the average dining room server made about $1500 per week. You work about six weeks on and had 2 weeks off.


It's exactly opposite of everything you posted, when it comes to these foreign-flagged ships. The contracts are 9 months for many of the crew and the cruise line ain't paying for them to fly back and forth more often than that.
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