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Cruise Line Employees compared to Locals
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:45 am
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:45 am
I recently got back from a cruise (Not on Carnival, but I'm sure the O-T will still think I'm trashy).
Much has been said about how our local hospitality industry wants $15/hr.
Hard research is hard to find (I'm sure the cruise industry would rather you not know) but it seems like, including gratuities, the average assistant waiter or cabin steward makes somewhere around $1500 a month (gross) and averages 10 hours of work per day.
On a 30 day month, that's 300 hours a month, which works out to about $5 an hour. In addition to their pay, of course, they get free room and board.
Now, compare the high level, high touch service that these $5 an hour employees provide, vs what your average "what you want" local employee provides.
It's a shame we can't have a similar system here in the US.
Much has been said about how our local hospitality industry wants $15/hr.
Hard research is hard to find (I'm sure the cruise industry would rather you not know) but it seems like, including gratuities, the average assistant waiter or cabin steward makes somewhere around $1500 a month (gross) and averages 10 hours of work per day.
On a 30 day month, that's 300 hours a month, which works out to about $5 an hour. In addition to their pay, of course, they get free room and board.
Now, compare the high level, high touch service that these $5 an hour employees provide, vs what your average "what you want" local employee provides.
It's a shame we can't have a similar system here in the US.
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Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:47 am to LSUFanHouston
these employees also get free room and board, food and get to travel the world.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:49 am to LSUFanHouston
Those employees seem to be largely foreigners also. Lots of Eastern Europeans and South Americans.
Not lazy Americans.
Not lazy Americans.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:52 am to Cosmo
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Not lazy Americans.
Kind of my point.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:54 am to LSUFanHouston
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I recently got back from a cruise
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I'm sure the O-T will still think I'm trashy
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:56 am to LSUFanHouston
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It's a shame we can't have a similar system here in the US.
A system of what? Better service?
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:57 am to Motorboat
Most of the people in our local "service" industry get free room and board also.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:58 am to Deactived
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A system of what? Better service?
Replace all our local idiots with people who will do a better job for same or less money. Give them free room and board or maybe pay them a bit more if they have to arrange their own.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:58 am to Deactived
Living on a boat would get old quick
They can't wait to get to ports to at least get a chance to get off the boat
The travel part gets old too as you go to the same ports over and over
They can't wait to get to ports to at least get a chance to get off the boat
The travel part gets old too as you go to the same ports over and over
Posted on 7/9/19 at 8:59 am to LSUFanHouston
If only Chic-Fil-A would buy a cruise line
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:00 am to LSUFanHouston
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Replace all our local idiots with people who will do a better job for same or less money. Give them free room and board or maybe pay them a bit more if they have to arrange their own
So, immigration
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:04 am to LSUFanHouston
Cruise line service folks work extremely hard, and many long hours and months at a time with no real break. It's why I tip my room steward and others that provide good service.
I would never ask, but I assume they are making really good money for where they come from, even with all the long hours.
I don't think I could do it, not at my age anyway.
And yes, American's are extremely lazy compared to these people.
I would never ask, but I assume they are making really good money for where they come from, even with all the long hours.
I don't think I could do it, not at my age anyway.
And yes, American's are extremely lazy compared to these people.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:11 am to LSUFanHouston
I banged an Australian chick on my senior cruise that was in charge of the daily random MC events. She was like 29 and my mom found out and ratted her out to the cruise line.
She got canned and I felt bad for like two days.
She got canned and I felt bad for like two days.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:17 am to LSUFanHouston
They probably don't pay income tax either.
I get way better service on a cruise ship by the Filipino, Vietnamese, or Guatamalan than I ever have received in any hotel or restaurant I've been to in the US. Well, almost.
I think most make a decent wage, do it for a couple of years,then go back to their homes for their family
I get way better service on a cruise ship by the Filipino, Vietnamese, or Guatamalan than I ever have received in any hotel or restaurant I've been to in the US. Well, almost.
I think most make a decent wage, do it for a couple of years,then go back to their homes for their family
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:20 am to kywildcatfanone
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I would never ask, but I assume they are making really good money for where they come from, even with all the long hours.
i've never asked directly either what they make, nor would I. But a convo we had with our waiter last week is typical. He's 37 years old and has 4 daughters, from India. He works 9 month contract, 6 weeks home, 9 month contract, etc. He said his family is one of the wealthiest in their village. Of course he misses his children. He said he didn't start working there until he was 29 which was after all his children were born.
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don't think I could do it, not at my age anyway.
I look at the cruise activities staff and think maybe that might have been fun for a couple of years after college. Also, there is absolutely a class society among the crew. Most of the entertainers, management, and activity stay on deck 1. It's the lower paid folk that stay on deck 0, and below that, deck 00.
But at 23 years old, making a couple of thousand a month, room and board paid for, it might have been interesting.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:22 am to McCaigBro69
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I banged an Australian chick on my senior cruise that was in charge of the daily random MC events. She was like 29 and my mom found out and ratted her out to the cruise line.
LOL. I know the lines have policies about this. I also know it happens a lot.
One of the activity staff was this hot chick from Brazil, who kept joking that she "needed to find an American man to get her a green card".
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:23 am to McCaigBro69
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I banged an Australian chick on my senior cruise that was in charge of the daily random MC events. She was like 29 and my mom found out and ratted her out to the cruise line. She got canned and I felt bad for like two days
Damn...she got mediocre sex and got fired
You suck
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:25 am to East Coast Band
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think most make a decent wage, do it for a couple of years,then go back to their homes for their family
They send most of the money back home, which is a lot for them.
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:32 am to LSUFanHouston
the reason all the ships are registered in other countries is so they don’t have to pay US minimum wage.
There is only one cruise ship registered in the US and it’s due to the jones act. It sails between Hawaiian islands so it has to be built, registered, and crewed by Americans
There is only one cruise ship registered in the US and it’s due to the jones act. It sails between Hawaiian islands so it has to be built, registered, and crewed by Americans
Posted on 7/9/19 at 9:59 am to SDTiger15
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she got mediocre sex
Only mediocre because I was 18. She’s lucky it didn’t happen now.
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