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re: Creationism and Evolution Questions

Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:58 pm to
Posted by Harald Ekernson
Louisiana
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 10:58 pm to
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From google AI. It is true.

And what does the google say about genetic Adam? When did he live compared to mtDNA Eve?

And did you know there’s more than mtDNA in a cell? And that mtDNA Eve isn’t an actual single individual organism? There’s nuclear DNA too. Humans have nuclear DNA from
Homo sapiens but also Denisovans, Neanderthals, and other archaic humans (likely Homo Erectus).

Consider that you are uneducated on the topic and are trying to convince educated persons using fallacious and unsupported arguments.
Posted by Harald Ekernson
Louisiana
Member since May 2025
382 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:07 am to
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Why are Jews the chosen people, as written by Isaiah, a Jew?

Most people don’t understand that the word used for “chosen” as in “chosen people” doesn’t mean that the god of the Jews chose the Jews. That word also translates to desired, elect, selected, and appointed. The last one makes the most sense to me because the god of the Jews was specifically assigned by his father the Most High God to rule Israel. In fact Canaanite myth has this same Most High God appointing his 70 sons to rule 70 nations. Guess how many nations are in the table of nations in Genesis.

The fact that these Jews believed there were many other gods is clear in the biblical text. “Quit worshipping those other gods” is expressed about a thousand times, and many times the god of the Jews says “I will judge the gods of Egypt” and “I will judge the gods of Babylon” in the first person.
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:55 am to
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Most people don’t understand that the word used for “chosen” as in “chosen people” doesn’t mean that the god of the Jews chose the Jews.


Now compare / contrast your answer with Jewish person’s average answer regarding if Jews are God’s chosen people.

The Almighty left a lot of space for complex interpretation in His word, yes? Ever wonder why something so important that He would John 3:16 but would communicate in such a way with the world that had telephone game outcomes? I sure do.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 9:56 am
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8986 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 3:20 pm to
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Actually... no. You don’t need to believe in either to accept the theory of evolution. You can believe God created life, or that life emerged from ooze, or neither, or both. In fact, you can hold any belief about the origin of life (minus "young earth" theories) and still accept evolution


Agreed..a belief in a creator and evolution are not mutually exclusive imo...I was commenting on his last question that the ooze must have come from somewhere...trying to coax discussion.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41231 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:15 pm to
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Early primates. Did you not take science in school?

This is observable and testable?
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41231 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:19 pm to
One side worships the created
One side worships the Creator





end of story
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
8986 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:30 pm to
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not about rejecting all change. It’s about looking at the actual evidence and asking honest questions: If this process really drives the origin of all species, why haven’t we seen even one clear example of it happening in the simplest and fastest-reproducing life forms on earth?


Even if what you are saying is true....that just means we dont have an answer...it doesnt mean the answer is God of the Bible or any other god. Im not saying you are making that argument but its always frustrating to.me that folks use supposed holes in evolutionary theory or any other scientific theory as a justification for the belief in a certain creation story.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6365 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:40 pm to
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There’s more evidence to support evolution than evidence to support god’s existence, which is zero by the way.


This is untrue. Evolution was debunked decades ago

I’ll take your evolution theory and raise you the laws of thermodynamics.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
1612 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:43 pm to
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This is untrue. Evolution was debunked decades ago

I’ll take your evolution theory and raise you the laws of thermodynamics.


Ooof
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37351 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 5:11 am to
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This is untrue. Evolution was debunked decades ago

Then it should be super easy for you to debunk it in this thread. You don't even need to spend any time doing it yourself. I'll settle for a copy and paste or a link[s].
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13146 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 5:40 am to
I don't try to rationalize shite that is incomprehensible. I simply accept the fact that I, like all of mankind before me, here now and for the foreseeable future, have infinitely less knowledge and understanding than I things I know and understand.

I will say that most animals share an awful lot of similar design in the basics and the same is true of plants. I ain'y privy to what that means but it is probably based on shite working over a long period of time...but it could be that some unseen hand is involved.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13146 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 5:49 am to
Contrary to many who ought to know better the theory of evolution does not address the creation of life....it theorizes about what happens after life is created to adapt to the conditions that life finds itself in. Darwin, as far as I know, and I could be wrong, never addressed the creation of life directly, in fact it seems that I have read where he was basically a creationist although he did eventually reject the literal interpretation of biblical creationism.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15541 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 5:57 am to
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I’ll take your evolution theory and raise you the laws of thermodynamics.


let me guess, the ole entropy argument?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
31789 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:06 am to
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Darwin, as far as I know, and I could be wrong, never addressed the creation of life directly, in fact it seems that I have read where he was basically a creationist although he did eventually reject the literal interpretation of biblical creationism.


Anyone else know where Darwin is buried? Westminster Abby in London.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62100 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:13 am to
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Evolution was debunked decades ago


Yes?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127718 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:49 am to
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This is untrue. Evolution was debunked decades ago I’ll take your evolution theory and raise you the laws of thermodynamics.


Good lord
Posted by Azranod
The Land of crooked letters and I's
Member since Oct 2013
1197 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:57 am to
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How do Creationists reconcile its incestuous design (brothers and sisters required to make babies to create the world’s population)?


In Genesis there are two descriptions of Creation. It is not a generalized telling followed by a more descriptive in depth retelling. It is the creation of everything outside the Garden followed by the description of God creating the chosen inside the Garden of Eden.
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:31 am to
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In Genesis there are two descriptions of Creation. It is not a generalized telling followed by a more descriptive in depth retelling. It is the creation of everything outside the Garden followed by the description of God creating the chosen inside the Garden of Eden.


I’m not sure what this means / implies. Are you saying brothers and sisters were or were not required to populate the world per Genesis?

And if not, curious why you think so when many Creationists in this string think the opposite?
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 11:32 am
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:48 am to
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Anyone else know where Darwin is buried? Westminster Abby in London.


In the shadows of Big Ben refurbishment (of recent), a sort of clock evolution, if you will. How appropo.
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
1424 posts
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:53 am to
Open vs closed systems…is the snag.

Curious, when you speak of thermodynamics in relation to human existence, do you see humans as a result of energy, an entity of its own energy (unto themselves), or something else?

This reaching Fri night weed smoking levels on a Monday but thought I would ask.
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