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re: Crazy stats on the size of the U.S. Navy by January 1945
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:45 pm to magildachunks
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:45 pm to magildachunks
At its peak the British fleet couldn't carry a fully equipped army hundreds or thousands of miles to a defended shoreline and land it ready to fight immediately with overwhelming force. That was unique to the 1944-1945 US Navy. Nobody else could do it then, and nobody can do it now, including us.
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:45 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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I'm not sure our allies really could grasp how economically and industrially powerful the US was.
And look what leftist have done to this once great people. When in think of what we once were, it breaks my heart. No power on earth could bring us down. Now we Cent even define things as simple as what is a woman and we can’t even produce the food feed our own babies.
I wish I’d have been born 50 years earlier so I’d not be around to see the collapse of the greatest civilization in human history.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:46 pm to Centinel
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Peace time versus War time would be the argument.
The British fought a lot of fricking wars in that time-frame.
Just saying.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:48 pm to magildachunks
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The British fought a lot of fricking wars in that time-frame.
I'm just making the argument. I'm not saying I agree with it.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:49 pm to RollTide1987
That was when the gay movement started.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:50 pm to Centinel
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I'm just making the argument. I'm not saying I agree with it.
Then quit taking his test for him.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:51 pm to Darth_Vader
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As we know they chose to roll the dice and go to war with the US.
They also weren’t sure we would or could fight. The military was cut down to bare bones during the depression.
Wasn’t there a training video showing an infantryman “shooting” a wooden machine gun at a truck with the word tank printed on it as it drove by that a Japanese officer saw while in the US that made him believe America wouldn’t/couldn’t fight.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:51 pm to CoyoteSong
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Shows how meaningless Pearl Harbor was from Japan’s perspective. Even if Japan succeeded and wiped out the entire US fleet at Pearl Harbor it would have been easily replaced quickly.
Midway was really fairly meaningless. Even if it had been an overwhelming victory for Japan, that would have just delayed the inevitable.
Honestly, the biggest foe the US Navy fought in WW2 was the Navy Bureau of Ordnance. If the BuOrd doesn't drag their feet on the Mark 14 torpedoes and get them fixed in '42, the war really speeds up. Our sub fleet did more to win the Pacific War than the surface pukes and aviators and they fought the first year and a half with non-functional torpedoes.
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:54 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Our sub fleet did more to win the Pacific War than the surface pukes and aviators and they fought the first year and a half with non-functional torpedoes.
I may be wrong here, but for some odd reason I think you might....maybe.....possibly....have a bias against the surface warfare squiddies.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:56 pm to alphaandomega
That’s just what they give us. Don’t underestimate their ability
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:56 pm to magildachunks
I toured the USS midway (aircraft carrier)last week in San Diego. The former pilot who did the presentation on landings said the average age of the men in service on the vessel was 19.5. Can you imagine trusting today’s 19-20 year olds with doing what’s necessary to keep everyone safe?
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:58 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Honestly, the biggest for the US Navy fought in WW2 was the Navy Bureau of Ordnance. If the BuOrd doesn't drag their feet on the Mark 14 torpedoes and get them fixed in '42, the war really speeds up. Our sub fleet did more to win the Pacific War than the surface pukes and aviators and they fought the first year and a half with non-functional torpedoes.
I read a little about that one time. The Navy torpedo test facility was in Rhode Island and a certain congressman considered it his personal fiefdom. He stonewalled every attempt to modernize it or make it more efficient.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 8:59 pm to DesScorp
Ernest (Big Chief) Evans was a real life badass.
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This battle has been cited by naval historians as one of the great mismatches in history. Taffy 3 was there to protect the escort carriers from submarines and enemy aircraft. The group was never envisioned as a force capable of mounting fleet level combat with battleships.
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The Johnston was the first American ship to attack the Japanese fleet. Without being ordered to attack, Evans sailed straight for the enemy against impossible odds. It was a suicide mission. This bravery was foretold during the Johnston's commissioning ceremony in October of 1943.
Evans told the sailors assigned to the ship: "This is going to be a fighting ship. I intend to go in harm's way, and anyone who doesn't want to go along had better get off right now". His sailors remained at their stations.
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However, the sailors and pilots of Taffy 3 fought so fiercely that the Japanese thought they were facing a much larger force and turned away from the fight about three hours after it began.
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Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:02 pm to Count deMonet
quote:. There are tens of thousands of 19-20 year olds right now doing just that. Granted the officers and NCOs supervising them are on average older and more experienced than in WWII but the actual wrench turners are the same as they've always been.
Can you imagine trusting today’s 19-20 year olds with doing what’s necessary to keep everyone safe?
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:07 pm to Count deMonet
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The former pilot who did the presentation on landings said the average age of the men in service on the vessel was 19.5.
I remember reading about a B 17 pilot who flew 28 missions before he was 20 years old. Thats wild.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
James Gavin was 36 when he took command of the 82nd Airborne Division.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:25 pm to Jim Rockford
Promotions came quickly in WW2, especially in the Airborne
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:30 pm to RollTide1987
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Nope. We had 100 aircraft carriers of which there were three types: fleet, auxiliary, and escort. I believe we had 14 or 15 fleet carriers while the remainder carrier armada was made up of the auxiliary and the escort carriers.
Weren’t we down to 3 fleet carriers in the Pacific when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor? Our Navy caught a big break they were out to season on 9/7.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:46 pm to Earthquake 88
I read via Ernie Pyle.... for example... In this one instance.
A Navy Commander of a LST was a lawyer before the war with absolutely zero naval or sea experience, yet here he was commanding a ship.
A Navy Commander of a LST was a lawyer before the war with absolutely zero naval or sea experience, yet here he was commanding a ship.
Posted on 5/23/22 at 9:50 pm to WWII Collector
BTW--- Here is a great D Dap showing the ship patterns.
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