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covid19 and natural selection.

Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:39 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69301 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:39 pm
Wouldn’t evolution/natural selection predict that this virus would evolve into a less deadly disease, because a virus doesn’t want the host to die?

I was really hopeful back in April that by the end of the year, Darwinism would work its magic on this terrible disease

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And before you say “evolution takes millions of years”, that isn’t true. It has to do with how long a generation lasts for a life form

We have observed evolution in fruit flies in only one year.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 5:01 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:40 pm to
i dont think you know what evolution is.
Posted by atrain5
Baton Rouge Correctional Facility
Member since Sep 2017
2209 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:40 pm to



here we go again
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:41 pm to
What if I told you it is?

The people I’m seeing are much less sick when they come in then June/July
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24018 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:42 pm to
1. Maybe we are since fatality rate for the virus is decreasing.

2. Lockdowns counteract this, especially being locked down over the summer while keeping the young apart.

3. Fairly stable virus.
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 4:43 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13425 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:42 pm to
Doesn't work that quickly every time, and clearly the current lethality and contagious nature are keeping this virus alive and well.

But there have been reportedly dozens of smaller mutations.

If we didn't have modern medicine, yes the virus would likely get less deadly because the hosts would die too quickly so a less lethal mutation would survive.

Here's a study saying one such mutation has made it more contagious -
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 4:44 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52996 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:43 pm to
Evolution isn’t real

Covid is God punishing y’all for not voting for His Son Donald Trump
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:43 pm to
What incentive does COVID have for not killing us? It primarily kills older people (>65) who are now passed child-bearing age (mortality rate = 6 percent) rather than younger people (rate < 2 percent).

As long as a parasite doesn’t kill child-bearing hosts, it can survive indefinitely.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:46 pm to
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Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65090 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:47 pm to
Manmade viruses don’t evolve.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47132 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:53 pm to
quote:

The people I’m seeing are much less sick when they come in then June/July



Probably because they really have the flu and were misdiagnosed with Covid19.
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11332 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

evolution/natural selection


quote:

Darwinism


Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29166 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:56 pm to
Evolution doesn’t "pick" what to do, the outcomes and its effects on the life form do.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38900 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Wouldn’t evolution/natural selection predict that this virus would evolve into a less deadly disease, because a virus doesn’t want the host to die?


This virus is evolving, but this doesn't mean it'll be less deadly. If anything, it will evolve to evade mechanisms to reduce its numbers.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47132 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Darwinism would work its magic on this terrible disease


The virus is gonna yell YOLO!, jump off a bridge, and kill itself by accident?

Sweet!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54093 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 4:57 pm to
You're operating under the assumption that evolution takes place in the timespan of months? And, you have studied the subject enough to state that you "absolutely believe in" it?

You're going with this? Really?
This post was edited on 11/17/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:02 pm to
There's also the issue of evolutionary short-sightedness. COVID perpetuates itself by making its host cough. So that's the reason it causes respiratory problems.

Sure, it *might* be better off if it dialed back its attack and strove for a more modest attack on the host's respiratory system.

But unintelligent organisms like COVID don't have the benefit of long-term strategy. What it's doing is working, so it will continue to do that.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:20 pm to
That’s what happened with the coronavirus strain that crossed over from animals to humans in the 1890s, it basically morphed into a regular cold after initially causing a lot of issues, not sure why this is getting downvoted so badly.
Posted by Shaken not Stirred
Member since Jun 2020
576 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:22 pm to
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Manmade viruses don’t evolve.


BOOM...there it is.

As well as that leading researcher saying early on that he knew that this was a manmade virus. He stated it was a good thing since man-mades ALWAYS get weaker with time.

He has been 100% correct on everything he stated way back in April/May.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 5:30 pm to
They are covid positive with PCR.
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