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re: COVID-19 nugget from 3/27 that is holding up rather well

Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:41 pm to
That's such a dumb take anyways. Everyone will die with or without getting it. Unless there's some way to know definitively that these people were going to die on the same exact day even without getting it, it's a dumb and intellectually dishonest argument.

Imagine if we felt that way about everything. Why give the little girl a heart transplant? She could die in a car wreck on the way home from the hospital. I mean that sounds dumb af
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:42 pm to
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it's a dumb and intellectually dishonest argument


STRAWMAN!!@@@@#!!
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Clarified it by stating that the old people will die regardless. Your exact words
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The. Old. People. Who. Get. This. And. Die. Would. Have. Died. Anyway.



That's not a fact


Because we haven’t reached capacity, you dolt. Why didn’t you include my very next sentence?

Do you even remember what started this? Talking about the FB worriers believing that if they stay home today they will stop the spread, end the shutdown sooner, and save grandma. They have been lead to believe that they are going to lower the total amount of cases by staying home. If an old person gets this today and dies, that old person will have gotten it and died next month too. The government just didn’t want us all getting this at once MAINLY because a hospital at capacity is dangerous for everyone not just the 80 year olds of the world who get covid which is a tiny amount affected by an overrun hospital. Get it???
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:43 pm to
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and save grandma.


Social distancing is helping with that you fricking dumbass.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Why give the little girl a heart transplant? She could die in a car wreck on the way home from the hospital.
Now who’s being intellectually dishonest? That comparison isn’t applicable at all. We are talking about measures taken for a reason. The whole point of them was to keep hospitals functioning for everyone. That means slowing spread not stopping spread... spreading out deaths. You want a better comparison? We don’t give heart transplants to old people with lung cancer.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:48 pm to
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and save grandma.


Social distancing is helping with that you fricking dumbass.


How do you know?
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:48 pm to
For maybe a month Or two while she sits at home alone only to die anyway once she eventually gets it. Only now she hasn’t had a hug from her kids or grandkids in months. What a way to go.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:48 pm to
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That means slowing spread not stopping spread... spreading out deaths.


And you're supposed "fact" is that spreading out the rate of infection will not result in less deaths compared to if they all happened at once. That is a clown opinion.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
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only to die anyway once she eventually gets i


Again you just assume anyone who gets it dies.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
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How do you know?




I have a functioning brain.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
That is not my assumption. I’m referring to an old lady who, if she got it today with all of the available care, dies anyway. Her life isn’t being saved but for a little while longer per the governments plan to spread this out. Not for her sake but for all the other people who would need her hospital bed in the meantime.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:51 pm to
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And you're supposed "fact" is that spreading out the rate of infection will not result in less deaths compared to if they all happened at once.
I knew you couldn’t help yourself, mr strawman.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Her life isn’t being saved but for a little while longer per the governments plan to spread this out.


But what about the other old lady who has access to care because of the measures put in place and does beat it? You seem to forget about her to make your point
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:53 pm to
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I knew you couldn’t help yourself, mr strawman.


It is literally exactly what you're claiming.
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:54 pm to
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How do you know?



I have a functioning brain.



I'll use that for all of your questions from now on, thank you
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:55 pm to
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To put it into situational context (because people are allowed to change their opinions with new data): more than 200 people died in Italy on that day alone.


Hot damn. Still not a number worth tanking the economy over. If it wasn't for New York City, this thing wouldn't even be a story right now.

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:55 pm to
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You still working down in SoCal?


Yes and no. The nature of my job has me working but i'm doing so from home. I'm fortunate that my job isn't in jeopardy or anything like that.
Posted by fitz
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:55 pm to
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If it wasn't for New York City, this thing wouldn't even be a story right now.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88462 posts
Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:56 pm to
You could be right if this were a long term policy. Staying away from grandma could save her life for longer than a few months. (Again, this is the old lady who, if infected today, would die in a hospital within weeks. Just to be clear.) Grandma could be left completely alone until a vaccine is available. Is that what you are suggesting?
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