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re: Court Rules in Pornhub Favor in Finding Texas Age-Verification Law Violates 1st Amendment

Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:59 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 5:59 pm to
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Having to enter things like your license information and other identifying information into a database that could be used by the government (the key here) to track your adult content consumption is where it infringes.


That would infringe but the site isn't required to do that under the law. They just have to take reasonable measures.

So you could sign up for an account, run your ID once, and get a computer-generated confirmation code. That code can be stored on an offline computer and an employee can send you the code. That way, you're verified but it isn't tied to your real name. That's relatively simple for a tech company.

The truly concerning part of the ruling is saying product safety warnings infringe on free speech. That opens a major Pandora's box. Imagine if Big Pharma runs with that precedent.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:01 pm to
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My friend wants to know if he still needs a VPN.


Just checked and nope.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:01 pm to
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That would infringe but the site isn't required to do that under the law. They just have to take reasonable measures.

So you could sign up for an account, run your ID once, and get a computer-generated confirmation code. That code can be stored on an offline computer and an employee can send you the code. That way, you're verified but it isn't tied to your real name. That's relatively simple for a tech company.


Louisiana requires them to use your LA Wallet digital ID and pay LA for your right to have LA Wallet
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78254 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:01 pm to
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You can laugh all you want
I will. Your hyperventilating is amusing.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:03 pm to
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The truly concerning part of the ruling is saying product safety warnings infringe on free speech. That opens a major Pandora's box. Imagine if Big Pharma runs with that precedent.


I agree. I'm interested to see where this goes. I don't see how age verification and product warnings, within reason, can be 1A infringements.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:04 pm to
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person should not be forced to put their fricking ID into a site just b/c a bunch of dumb arse parents don't know how to monitor their kid's internet activity.


Should you have to show an ID to buy a dirty magazine at the store?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:05 pm to
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Should you have to show an ID to buy a dirty magazine at the store?



define dirty
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
22141 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:06 pm to
National geographic with the aboriginal titties uncensored
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:10 pm to
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Louisiana requires them to use your LA Wallet digital ID and pay LA for your right to have LA Wallet


The Louisiana law needs adjusted. Too restricted.

The Texas law gave the sites more freedom for how they verfiy, and should be upheld on appeal.
This post was edited on 9/2/23 at 10:22 am
Posted by UnrealMFer
Georgia
Member since Aug 2023
145 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:11 pm to
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Or maybe folks should just mind their own business and stop utilizing their own moral standards as the standard for everyone else.


This is kinda how we have 10 year olds on puberty blockers and getting ready to cut their dicks off.

Suffices to say, it ain't black and white.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:12 pm to
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Are you ashamed of your porn?


No. But I also think it's ridiculous to make people get put into a database (which is where this will go) for looking at porn.

Some of y'all sound like the people who said "Hey what the problem, they're just looking for terrorists" when the Patriot Act was passed.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:13 pm to
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define dirty


It’s really hard to define, but you know it when you see it.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89053 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:13 pm to
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It’s really hard to define, but you know it when you see it.



I heard a politician say that before
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78254 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:14 pm to
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No. But I also think it's ridiculous to make people get put into a database (which is where this will go) for looking at porn.
What about when purchasing a gun?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7162 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:22 pm to
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Matt is right

muh freedom though


So just to be clear, you’re pro-government oversight and control.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31839 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:27 pm to
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Should you have to show an ID to buy a dirty magazine at the store?


Yes.

I’m fairly libertarian on porn.

I think it’s wrong and would like it to be gone forever. I don’t want to outlaw it but let’s not pretend like society is better off with it.

I won’t pretend like I haven’t looked at it but I can guarantee that putting in my ID would stop me from getting to it just like an ID at Hastings or Barnes and Noble stopped me after I turned 18
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38044 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:32 pm to
Back in my day we had to work for our porn. Whether is was stealing it, catching a scrambled nipple on Spice, or getting cool with the Arab gas station to sell a magazine. It built character
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1330 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:33 pm to
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What about when purchasing a gun?


Is a minor involved?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78254 posts
Posted on 9/1/23 at 6:37 pm to
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quote:
What about when purchasing a gun?



Is a minor involved?
My point is that people have to submit ID to engage in other legal pursuits and apparently it has withstood court scrutiny.
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