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re: Could you beat a 135 pound female mma fighter (amanda nunez)without training?

Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:57 am to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:57 am to
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She also has to think how she will react to a strike from a grown man.
Honest question, why do you think the average OTer who will have exactly zero MMA training would be able to land a punch on arguably the best MMA female fighter in the world who trains at this for a living for who knows how many years now?

How many attempts at striking her do you think that average OTer can make before being gassed?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:59 am to
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no it’s not. 135 is the largest weight class for female fighters. It would be like Daniel Cormier benching 315 which he probably does. A 135 pound person benching 165 is not unreasonable


The female world record for bench press in the 132 pound division is 204 pounds

The make world record for bench press in the 132 pound division is 390 pounds

Using two 135 pound mma fighters in the men and women’s is the comparison you psycho, not using a 135 pound female fighter and 250 plus pound man
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:59 am to
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A good 16-17 year old mma fighter would kill Nunes in under 30 seconds too. Kill her if he wanted to Hell doesn’t even need to be mma. An all American 17 year old high school wrestler in the 132 pound division would break her in half
yeah and no one would debate that. No one is saying al woman of any size could beat a male fighter of any size. The question is a trained pro female vs an untrained average male(the OT)
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:00 am to
I consider myself the average OTer, but I guess I need to realize I’m an elite specimen possibly compared to the average American male

I’m 6’0”—175 pounds, lift and work out but not excessively (245 pound bench)—run 2 miles in right at 11 minutes, played high level sports previously but nothing ever in contact

That’s what I’m picturing as somewhat average, but I guess that is skewed because average these days is likely on statins

I think we need to pick a person to represent the average man to really dive into a deeper discussion here. Who we got?
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:03 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:04 am to
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I consider myself the average OTer, but I guess I need to realize I’m an elite specimen possibly compared to the average American male

I think we need to pick a person to represent the average man to really dive into a deeper discussion here. Who we got?
I'd argue the average OTer is around 40-45, about 5'9 and weights about 180lbs(maybe less?). But if we're doing average 200lb dudes, that dude will be overweight and out of shape, on average.

I'd argue the average OTer is probably in average to below average shape, and that's likely the most important part of this. 30 seconds of fighting can be exhausting even if you're in decent shape. Taking average to below avg shape, and this dude won't be able to move around or do much no more than 30 seconds into this.

They have zero chance striking. Only chance is a takedown using brute strength. Again, that's absolute possible. But it's also possible(I'd argue likely) that while you're trying to do that, before you know what happened, you're in a choke hold or some arm bar you have no chance of getting out of.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:05 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:04 am to
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no it’s not. 135 is the largest weight class for female fighters. It would be like Daniel Cormier benching 315 which he probably does. A 135 pound person benching 165 is not unreasonable
dude you are coming across as a huge idiot

I picked the female 132 pound division bench press world record. Not the all time world record for any weight…..

I also used the male 132 pound bench press world record, not the all time record for any weight

Considering the heaviest all time bench for a woman at 132 pounds for trained power lifters is 204, 165 for a 135 pound female that isn’t in power lifting is unreasonable
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:08 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:05 am to
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lsupride87


Aren’t you a tennis player?

Have ever thrown a punch at a grown man or even received one?

I seriously doubt it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111488 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:06 am to
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Aren’t you a tennis player?
Was

quote:

Have ever thrown a punch at a grown man or even received one?
Yes. Won and lost

Undefeated 3-0 vs females though
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5732 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:07 am to
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A woman’s wrist is the size of two of my fingers.


How big of a boy are ya?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:08 am to
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There is nobody offering for a female to fight a male There is an offer for a jiu jitsu session. Any man that willing accepts a fight with a woman where is soul goal is to decimate her is a psycho. I stand by that.



Yellowfin has already gone on the record that he would throw Ronda Rousey and Amanda Nunez around the ring.

That’s what the OT wants to see
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111488 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:13 am to
I don’t think I could physically watch a male fight a female
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39523 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:14 am to
She would whip every single one of you baws arse who are saying absolutely yes. Unless you actually have training in fighting like that you'd have no chance
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111488 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:17 am to
I think the only male female fight I ever saw was when fat gross Joey buttafuoco manhandled and destroyed chyna. Was so strange to watch. The epitome of female strength and roids at the time get turned into a child by a fat old Italian man
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:17 am to
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She would whip every single one of you baws arse who are saying absolutely yes. Unless you actually have training in fighting like that you'd have no chance
If you have some level of training, or some level of peak physical shape, or some level of size advantage, you are 100% winning. If not, I would not say you can't win, but I would say you likely will not win.

The average OTer does not have any of these advantages.
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:18 am
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6928 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:22 am to
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You know many woman walking around that want fights to the death with men?

I’m sure I can find one or two who would be willing to push your shite in for the internet to see you interested? I’m not going to sit here and debate some retard who hasn’t ever put on gloves or spent time on the mat. I’m telling you that a good professional female fighter would treat you like a 12 year old child and I can arrange that if you’re anywhere close to a major city. How confident are you that your completely uneducated opinion is correct?
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4700 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:22 am to
I’m 210 and have trained in multiple martial arts for 26 years. Have fought internationally. Just never inside a cage. I’m confident I could though.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74861 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:26 am to
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Any man that willing accepts a fight with a woman where is soul goal is to decimate her is a psycho. I stand by that.


well of course.

BUT…..the fear of embarrassment makes for engrossing content. think big ‘87!!!
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74861 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:27 am to
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If you have some level of training, or some level of peak physical shape, or some level of size advantage, you are 100% winning. If not, I would not say you can't win, but I would say you likely will not win.

The average OTer does not have any of these advantages.


you and I don’t agree often. hell, some would say never. But this post is 1000% accurate. /debate
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 9:28 am
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18076 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:28 am to
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I’m sure I can find one or two who would be willing to push your shite in for the internet to see

We could pump this up with quotes from this thread. Live stream would be straight fire. We have to make this happen.

Lsupride thinks you only offered a JJ session. Can you clarify so there’s no ambiguity and maybe they can just retreat to full blown crawfishing?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:29 am to
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you and I don’t agree often. hell, some would say never. But this post is 1000% accurate. /debate

This is the start of a budding partnership!!!
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