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Could Police brutality be solved with money?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:05 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:05 am
Starting salary for a Minneapolis Police Officer is $54k and starting salary for a New Orleans Police Officer is $40k.
Are they really recruiting quality candidates that can make intelligent and rational decisions on some very sensitive issues at that salary?
For example, if the starting salary was $100k for a Police Officer - would applications go up 20-fold and more stringent psychological and intelligence tests be given during the interview process?
There are a lot of good Police Officers but imagine the quality level (and the ability to discipline/process out bad Police Officers quicker) if it paid significantly more above the median salary.
Are they really recruiting quality candidates that can make intelligent and rational decisions on some very sensitive issues at that salary?
For example, if the starting salary was $100k for a Police Officer - would applications go up 20-fold and more stringent psychological and intelligence tests be given during the interview process?
There are a lot of good Police Officers but imagine the quality level (and the ability to discipline/process out bad Police Officers quicker) if it paid significantly more above the median salary.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:09 am to UncleLester
So, raise taxes to pay cops more?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:29 am to UncleLester
I think if these protests resulted in law enforcement pay raises, people would lose their mind.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:37 am to TypoKnig
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I think if these protests resulted in law enforcement pay raises, people would lose their mind.
Even if it resulted in major law enforcement reform, including standards for joining the force and being retained by the force AND a no-nonsense discipline policy that leads to termination?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:39 am to UncleLester
Cops are paid too much already
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:43 am to UncleLester
You may really be on to something here, but the optics of how it’d look to people with room temp IQ’s would never allow it to happen. People would lose their rabid arse minds worse than they already have.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 3:48 am to ColdTurkey
It won't make much of a difference. Most people will never work a job where they have a chance of being killed everyday. Also, no one wants to deal with the the dregs of society day in and day out.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 3:48 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:13 am to Barstools
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So, raise taxes to pay cops more?
Don’t need to raise taxes, just stop overpaying school teachers
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:51 am to TulaneFan
quote:quality troll!
Don’t need to raise taxes, just stop overpaying school teachers
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:55 am to TypoKnig
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This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 7:35 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:55 am to UncleLester
quote:
For example, if the starting salary was $100k for a Police Officer - would applications go up 20-fold and more stringent psychological and intelligence tests be given during the interview process?
Not sure. But speeding ticket violations would go up 20 fold to fund the pay raise.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:56 am to UncleLester
Even if the salary started at $100k, I’m not taking that job no matter how desperate I was. Police across the country now have a target painted on their backs. We’ve seen multiple instances of them
being shot, killed, and put in critical care over the last few nights all in the name of #justice
Look up David Dorn. Executed Sunday night in Las Vegas so rioters could get to some TVs. He’s an African American, does his black life not matter?
being shot, killed, and put in critical care over the last few nights all in the name of #justice
Look up David Dorn. Executed Sunday night in Las Vegas so rioters could get to some TVs. He’s an African American, does his black life not matter?
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 5:58 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 5:57 am to Puffoluffagus
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Not sure. But speeding ticket violations would go up 20 fold to fund the pay raise.
Have you ever been to Germany?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:33 am to UncleLester
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Even if it resulted in major law enforcement reform, including standards for joining the force and being retained by the force AND a no-nonsense discipline policy that leads to termination?
I'd be for it.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:37 am to DLauw
mm I cant read
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 6:37 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:47 am to UncleLester
Apparently, all it really takes is one racist, or perceived racist, to cause the entire country to have a massive melt down that includes, beating the shite out of other races, cops, killings, burning businesses to the ground, and stealing.
Exactly how are we ever going to prevent one racist, or perceived racist from becoming a cop and perhaps going overboard, because I just don't see it as being humanly possible. I mean, I think we can tone down the paramilitary shite within the police forces, train better, and pay better, but I just don't think that we hold the secret to fixing that which ails man and keep it out of the various police forces across this country to prevent this from EVER happening again and the people who want to loot and riot, and be violent from doing so when they do something fricked up again.
I’m just trying to be a realist here. I don't see it as humanly posssible.
Exactly how are we ever going to prevent one racist, or perceived racist from becoming a cop and perhaps going overboard, because I just don't see it as being humanly possible. I mean, I think we can tone down the paramilitary shite within the police forces, train better, and pay better, but I just don't think that we hold the secret to fixing that which ails man and keep it out of the various police forces across this country to prevent this from EVER happening again and the people who want to loot and riot, and be violent from doing so when they do something fricked up again.
I’m just trying to be a realist here. I don't see it as humanly posssible.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:50 am to UncleLester
No. With hundreds of millions of police and public interactions there are always going to be episodes of brutality. It cannot be avoided and it is relatively rare at this time.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:51 am to Mike da Tigah
quote:
Apparently, all it really takes is one racist, or perceived racist, to cause the entire country to have a massive melt down that includes, beating the shite out of other races, cops, killings, burning businesses to the ground, and stealing.
These protests/riots have been about much more than just 1 death.
quote:I think it has to start with the cops we currently have. They have to weed out the ones that they know have potential to lose control.
Exactly how are we ever going to prevent one racist, or perceived racist from becoming a cop and perhaps going overboard
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:55 am to UncleLester
The same people rioting push for lowered standards for non Asian minority candidates.
They are rioting to
* Be victims
* Get free shite
It's not logical.
They are rioting to
* Be victims
* Get free shite
It's not logical.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 6:57 am to UncleLester
I don’t think it would help much. Salary is just one part of a policeman’s compensation. Add in overtime, special assignments like private security, etc and the number is much higher.
What needs to increase is accountability. If almost every person walk around with a phone in their pocket, why don’t all police departments have body cams? The police unions are happy to cover for and protect the “bad” police. Investigations by Internal Affairs are a joke.
Get rid of thin blue line paraphernalia, tactical vests, Punisher stickers on gear, and work to eliminate the “us vs them” attitude that many officers seem to have. This isn’t Itaq; anyone who isn’t wearing the same uniform as you is not an enemy. Basically take away the Sovereign Citizen attitude that many police exhibit.
What needs to increase is accountability. If almost every person walk around with a phone in their pocket, why don’t all police departments have body cams? The police unions are happy to cover for and protect the “bad” police. Investigations by Internal Affairs are a joke.
Get rid of thin blue line paraphernalia, tactical vests, Punisher stickers on gear, and work to eliminate the “us vs them” attitude that many officers seem to have. This isn’t Itaq; anyone who isn’t wearing the same uniform as you is not an enemy. Basically take away the Sovereign Citizen attitude that many police exhibit.
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