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Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:22 am to UncleLester
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Are they really recruiting quality candidates that can make intelligent and rational decisions on some very sensitive issues at that salary?
Your mistake is thinking that they want someone who can make intelligent and rational decisions. They want recruits who follow orders and don’t question chain of command.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:35 am to pvilleguru
quote:Clearly you know nothing about policing. With the situations they are put in daily for years, every officer on the street has the potential to lose control. Keep commenting from your sofa though, I think you've cracked the case.
They have to weed out the ones that they know have potential to lose control
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:51 am to UncleLester
You would have to give 1,000 officers a $50,000 raise. That’s $50 million per year. The budget for NOLA is about $750 million if Google is to be believed. So this would be only about a 8% increase. Seems possible to me, and I think it would help a lot.
To work, however, this would require big concessions from the police unions that would allow more transparency and accountability. Again, it seems possible considering the amount of money involved.
One thing is certain, this is a problem that will have to be solved mostly by democrats since they control the large urban police forces.
To work, however, this would require big concessions from the police unions that would allow more transparency and accountability. Again, it seems possible considering the amount of money involved.
One thing is certain, this is a problem that will have to be solved mostly by democrats since they control the large urban police forces.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:52 am to Barstools
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, raise taxes to pay cops more?
Make fewer things illegal so you don't need as many cops.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 7:54 am to UncleLester
Police brutality is not the issue the media wants you to believe.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:08 am to SG_Geaux
It's a bigger issue than you think it is, but the media is painting it as a white vs black issue and that's not the case. It is an us vs them issue. As the poster above said, you won't see change until you start weeding out that mentality. This is a direct byproduct of the trend toward militarization of the police force that has occurred in the last 20 or so years. Military and police were always meant to be 2 distinctly different things and that line has been blurred greatly.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:09 am to UncleLester
The root cause is crime not police salaries. Try dealing with ongoing criminal behavior and domestic violence day after day not knowing who might be wielding a gun or a knife and see how well you hold up at any salary.
And the root cause of crime is government promotion of a welfare culture that has destroyed the family as a stabilizing social construct in our nation. Coupled with the decline of religion as a moral influence on the lives of those affected and you have a formula for an overall moral decline in this faction of our society.
Liberal progressives are like rich parents who spoil their children not realizing that earning what you get in life through sound work ethic is a key factor in good citizenry.
And the root cause of crime is government promotion of a welfare culture that has destroyed the family as a stabilizing social construct in our nation. Coupled with the decline of religion as a moral influence on the lives of those affected and you have a formula for an overall moral decline in this faction of our society.
Liberal progressives are like rich parents who spoil their children not realizing that earning what you get in life through sound work ethic is a key factor in good citizenry.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:10 am to UncleLester
Meanwhile. Needed: Strictly enforced
quote:with annual or semi-annual departmental reviews, and a discretionary one strike and you’re out policy for officers who cross the line.
standards for joining the force and being retained by the force AND a no-nonsense discipline policy that leads to termination...
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 8:14 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:14 am to UncleLester
It would change people resisting arrest. Just because you pay cops more doesn't mean people want to go to jail.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:25 am to UncleLester
Signing bonuses for people that come out of the military. Those fackers have been in the streets of Baghdad not being able to shoot people, not knowing who the enemy is, and shitty ROE. I think they would be more than capable... Give them sign on bonuses and pay them more. Slowly add stronger recruits and don't put up with BS.rewrite the termination policies and procedures. The force will be better.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:41 am to rented mule
quote:You're right. We should have police deal with riots and mass shooters with revolvers and squad cars.
This is a direct byproduct of the trend toward militarization of the police force that has occurred in the last 20 or so years
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:51 am to Jake88
I think we have a problem that no one really wants to solve. If we actually tell the truth about what policemen have to do, no one who isn't insane will want to do it. Secondly if we do fix it, the left can't make money off of it.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:54 am to Jake88
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You're right. We should have police deal with riots and mass shooters with revolvers and squad cars.
Quit being obtuse. Local police don't need tanks and mraps. Local cops doing duty in Walmart dont need to tactical vests loaded with various devices, and militarization is not just about equipment, it is also philosophy and protocol.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:58 am to yatesdog38
Police with military experience
There is plenty of ex-military in the police force and this study found they are more likely to shoot than those who were not.
There is plenty of ex-military in the police force and this study found they are more likely to shoot than those who were not.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 8:59 am to UncleLester
No.
Could inner city crime?
Could inner city crime?
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:01 am to UncleLester
I think the larger issue is when police commit police brutality, we the taxpayer take the hit on lawsuits if charges are not brought forth and the civil suit is successful.
Maybe reducing police protection that shields them from taking a financial hit in the case of a successful lawsuit would help? If they know they could lose their pension and lose their arse financially if caught that could change their tune.
Maybe reducing police protection that shields them from taking a financial hit in the case of a successful lawsuit would help? If they know they could lose their pension and lose their arse financially if caught that could change their tune.
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 9:02 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:02 am to rented mule
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Quit being obtuse. Local police don't need tanks and mraps. Local cops doing duty in Walmart dont need to tactical vests loaded with various devices, and militarization is not just about equipment, it is also philosophy and protocol.
You sound like an expert. Go to headquarters and lend them your expertise. I'm sure they'd love to hear some new ideas on how to maintain law & order.
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:03 am to BluegrassBelle
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Maybe reducing police protection that shields them from taking a financial hit in the case of a successful lawsuit would help? If they know they could lose their pension and lose their arse financially if caught that could change their tune
Great idea, when do you apply?
This post was edited on 6/3/20 at 9:05 am
Posted on 6/3/20 at 9:03 am to rented mule
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This is a direct byproduct of the trend toward militarization of the police force that has occurred in the last 20 or so years.
Oh please. So I guess we should follow the Minneapolis City council and get rid of the police and use Community Outreach Groups to enforce the law?
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