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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:23 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:23 pm to Antonio Moss
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80% asymptomatic/Mild not necessitating medical care
Okay, so that definition absolutely does not line up with what we’re being told.
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:25 pm to Antonio Moss
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The model the Department of Health is using is of a total infected population:
80% asymptomatic/Mild not necessitating medical care
20% symptomatic and need medical attention, within this number
4% need hospitalization
1% need critical intervention
link? Not doubting you. I'd just like to see the model you are talking about.
Current numbers on LDH site show that 1,158 covid-19 patients in hospital and a total of 4,025 cases reported. That's 28% of confirmed cases are hospitalized in Louisiana. 385 of those are on ventilators which us 9.5%.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:25 pm to S1C EM
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Okay, so that definition absolutely does not line up with what we’re being told.
I guess it depends on who you are listening to.
This was told to me by a doctor/health systems administrator who got it from the Governor's office.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:26 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Eh, Iceland is pretty fricking fat, especially for a Nordic country, and has a similar smoking rate. I think we'll end up in the 40 - 50% range as well when it's all said and done.
Iceland is not in the US's stratosphere for obesity rates. Obesity is a big cause of all of the other comorbidities we're seeing (heart disease/diabetes/COPD) so it makes sense that we track it.
In our models to predict impact on our ERs we're looking at obesity rates by county in the US and average household income by zip. Lower socioeconomic people (mostly women) are far more likely to be obese and smoke.
Obesity Rate:
US - 36.2% of adults obese (12th highest)
Iceland - 21.9% of adults obese (83rd highest)
Smoking was close, but Iceland is still better:
Smoking Rate:
US - 17.2% (70th)
Iceland - 16.1% (75th)
Their median and average age are also both lower than the US, which will help as well.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:28 pm to ashy larry
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Current numbers on LDH site show that 1,158 covid-19 patients in hospital and a total of 4,025 cases reported. That's 28% of confirmed cases are hospitalized in Louisiana. 385 of those are on ventilators which us 9.5%.
Louisiana has 3x the hospitalization rate of other states I'm looking at currently (Florida, Texas, California, Tennessee, and others).
I don't have an explanation for that to be honest.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:28 pm to Commander Data
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Are you seriously coming back to hijack the damn thread again el? Damn it bro. Obviously you and every paying member here (lol) are more than welcome to take part but please don't derail this bitch with 10 pages of shite posting per hour like you did a couple weeks ago. You can easily state your opinion without trolling it up.
With that said, it's not our fault that our government has shut down the freaking country and in some cases it IS overkill. President Trump is going to use this disease as his reelection campaign so don't expect him to loosen the noose anytime soon. He is gonna milk this cow for all it's worth. I hope it gets him reelected too. Need more winning.
THERE he is! You must be feeling a little better today, yeah? Hope so, brother!
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:31 pm to ashy larry
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Current numbers on LDH site show that 1,158 covid-19 patients in hospital and a total of 4,025 cases reported. That's 28% of confirmed cases are hospitalized in Louisiana. 385 of those are on ventilators which us 9.5%.
That's confirmed positives. The majority of infected aren't getting tested. If 80% do not need medical attention, they sure as shite aren't getting tested for it.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:35 pm to Antonio Moss
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I guess it depends on who you are listening to.
This was told to me by a doctor/health systems administrator who got it from the Governor's office.
I feel like those are some statistics that would have been shown to the public if true
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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That's confirmed positives. The majority of infected aren't getting tested. If 80% do not need medical attention, they sure as shite aren't getting tested for it.
Using those same stats, the hospitalization rate in Louisiana is wayyyyyyy higher than other states among positive cases.
ETA:
I have no explanation for it. My guess is that a ton of Louisianaians have it and aren't getting tested even when displaying symptoms because they're hard headed or just don't see the point.
That means just the super, super sick people are getting tested and thus the hospitalization rate is higher.
I really don't know.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:39 pm to Commander Data
You don’t need to get so upset by me.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:40 pm to tiger91
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How goes it this morning CD?
About the same brother. Just got back from a ct scan. Still got a worrisome blood oxygen level but it is two numbers higher than it was the night I checked in so I will take that as improvement. The doctor was happy to see it go up and so was I. If it continues to go up then I will be home soon. He would like to see it up to 98. I think the meds are finally working. Just that small win has lifted my spirits from yesterday. Thanks for asking. My wife said her cough is better and the kids feel like they are on vacation. Life is good.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:41 pm to Commander Data
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Commander Data
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:45 pm to Commander Data
quote:I actually agree with you
d, it's not our fault that our government has shut down the freaking country and in some cases it IS overkill. President Trump is going to use this disease as his reelection campaign so don't expect him to loosen the noose anytime soon. He is gonna milk this cow for all it's worth. I hope it gets him reelected too. Need more winning
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:46 pm to S1C EM
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You must be feeling a little better today, yeah? Hope so, brother!
Yeah bro, today has been a good day. I was down in the dumps yesterday but today I am in much better spirits. I know I won't be drinking any more ginger ale or eating any jello for a very long time when this is over.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:48 pm to Commander Data
Alright. Sounds like you are turning the corner.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Louisiana has 3x the hospitalization rate of other states I'm looking at currently (Florida, Texas, California, Tennessee, and others).
I don't have an explanation for that to be honest.
Understood. I'm just not seeing where only 5% need hospitalizations unless we are factoring in undiagnosed cases. Considering that's an unknown, it just seems like someone is pulling numbers out of the air until more testing is done.
- New York City has a 22% hospitalization rate as of yesterday.
- The state of New York is closer to 15% I believe.
- The numbers from Florida today have about 13% of their cases still in the hospital plus deaths. That may not count some that have been released from the hospital.
Obviously these numbers are based on confirmed cases.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:53 pm to Commander Data
Glad to hear you’re doing better, man! Kick it’s arse!
Any MD’s on here who are currently seeing and treating China virus patients? Have you seen or heard of patients on ACE inhibitors or ARBs Having worse outcomes? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but no research to back it up yet.
Any MD’s on here who are currently seeing and treating China virus patients? Have you seen or heard of patients on ACE inhibitors or ARBs Having worse outcomes? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but no research to back it up yet.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:56 pm to Uncle JackD
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Have you seen or heard of patients on ACE inhibitors or ARBs Having worse outcomes? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but no research to back it up yet.
Following... I have very mild hyper tension and take a low dose ACE and it’s had me concerned. Mine is mostly attributed to poor genetics as I’m not over weight or anything
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:56 pm to BlindTiger7
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I feel like those are some statistics that would have been shown to the public if true
Maybe.
I haven't really seen anything that rebuts this. Most people suck at statistics so maybe they are perceiving something completely different than what's out there.
Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:56 pm to Uncle JackD
Might've missed it, but didn't see anyone post Italy's numbers today. Obviously the high # of deaths is still very sad, but the new case # is encouraging if testing is somewhat comparable to what it has been.
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BREAKING: Italy reports 4,050 new cases of coronavirus and 812 new deaths, raising total to 101,739 cases and 11,591 dead
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