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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Cat3 barreling towards us "meh it won't be worse than TS winds"


It’s a low Cat 2 and people are wanting a Cat 4.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:14 pm to
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This is like showing the radar images, wind speed data, models, etc. and half of the population refuses to believe there is a hurricane
No. half the population is inland far enough to know that they don’t have to prepare like people 200 miles from the coast who don’t have to prepare like people 1 mile off the coast.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:15 pm to
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To be fair it hasn’t been enough time for the lockdown to do anything. We won’t know for another week


A reasonable point, I'll give it a week. I'll feel better once Italy's rate of increase slows down, I'd hoped for some indication by now.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:21 pm to
The only numbers that really matter are the number of major cases that require hospitalization and the number of deaths. Everything else is just a cold. If the major case number stays low like it has then the healthcare system won’t be overwhelmed unless people panic which they are doing because they’ve been told to panic.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:23 pm to
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What happens when the Lombardy region imports a case a couple months down the road, and another outbreak starts? They just have to quarantine every single time a new case comes in?


This is the big unknown. We will probably find out in China shortly if they are honest with their numbers.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:25 pm to
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The only numbers that really matter are the number of major cases that require hospitalization and the number of deaths. Everything else is just a cold. If the major case number stays low like it has then the healthcare system won’t be overwhelmed unless people panic which they are doing because they’ve been told to panic.


Best way to keep the major case rate low is for the community to take fairly drastic measures of social distancing, disinfecting, avoiding any large groups, washing hands, etc. I think the measures already taken have drastically helped the number of extreme cases.

Also, it can often takes a couple of weeks of having the virus for these major cases to develop in the vulnerable. Unfortunately, those numbers will likely rise. We need to continue what we're doing and hopefully they won't rise to a point of overwhelming the hospitals.
Posted by brickyard
Member since Jan 2007
625 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:29 pm to
And toward the bottom of the article they mention that lung function can be improved.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:31 pm to
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This is the big unknown. We will probably find out in China shortly if they are honest with their numbers.


Heard some Dr. on the radio driving home this morning that they believed recovered people have a short term immunity (immune to getting it again during this outbreak) but don’t know if it would be seasonal immunity.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Heard some Dr. on the radio driving home this morning that they believed recovered people have a short term immunity (immune to getting it again during this outbreak) but don’t know if it would be seasonal immunity.

That is how our immune system works and why we have multiple rounds of immunizations or booster shots for things.

“If you don’t use it, you lose it” is an apt statement.

That is nothing groundbreaking or new, and it is definitely not specific to the Wuhan virus.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:38 pm to
That’s correct, that’s true of any virus. No one knows how long you will have immunity. Maybe it’s years, who knows. And everyone varies a bit based on their immune system.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:39 pm to
Has anybody read that certain blood pressure medications block the site receptors the virus attaches to? It’s not the ACE inhibitor types like lisinopril it’s the others like losarten
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:40 pm to
Also keep in mind that not everyone has to immune. Once we reach a certain percentage of immune people then the virus becomes less effective. It basically can’t find a host very easily

This is called herd immunity

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Has anybody read that certain blood pressure medications block the site receptors the virus attaches to? It’s not the ACE inhibitor types like lisinopril it’s the others like losarten


There is no good information on this yet. But I haven’t read anything that says an ACEi would make a difference in theory or practice.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 1:43 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:43 pm to
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This is called herd immunity



And why vaccines are so important and why a-hole anti-vaxxers should be kicked out of the country.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3206 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:43 pm to
On a log scale Italy is slowing down in new case count, maybe close to turning.

LINK
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:52 pm to
Anyone have cliffs from the press conference today? I’ve been out with this bronchitis all day.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:54 pm to
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On a log scale Italy is slowing down in new case count, maybe close to turning.



shite, they better be. They are on absolute mandatory lockdown. Only "new cases" there are just being tested finally I'm guessing. The community transmission has got to be almost done.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 1:58 pm to
This is exactly what happened in China. It didn’t slow down for a good bit. You have to remember a lot of the tests don’t even come back right away.
Posted by patchesohoulihan_007
Member since Jul 2015
2799 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 2:04 pm to
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been out with this bronchitis all day.


Ain’t nobody got time for no bronchitis
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