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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:37 pm to
The outbreak coincided, with the celebration of the Chinese New Year. Huge numbers of Chinese ex-pats travel back home to China for this. There are direct flights to Wuhan from Milan in Italy's Lombardy region where the largest number of reported cases occurred.

Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:40 pm to
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It's almost like Italy's "great" healthcare infrastructure was nothing more than a bunch of walk in clinics not suited to provide more than a throat lozenge and a lollipop.



Italy's healthcare system ranks 3rd in the world overall. Most of the cases occurred in one region, the Lombardy region, and it overwhelmed the local hospitals. They had a record-breaking 200 deaths in one day.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:42 pm to
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they have more doctors and icu beds per capita than we do dude
No they don’t.



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Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:42 pm to
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they have more doctors and icu beds per capita than we do dude


So their hordes of doctors were unqualified then? There a several countries with fewer resources that are handling this virus much better.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:44 pm to
Does Scruffy think one system has a higher ICU occupancy rate than the other?

I thought I had read they had similiar occupancy rates, meaning that even though we have more ICU beds per capita, they are filled at a higher rate.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:44 pm to
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Italy's healthcare system ranks 3rd in the world overall. Most of those infected occurred in on region, the Lombardy region, and it overwhelmed the local hospitals. They had a record-breaking 200 deaths in one day.


Well that 3rd ranked healthcare system is getting ravaged while the UK, Denmark, Germany and several other European countries are handling this much better.

Seems to me that heralded healthcare system was a bit of an exaggeration.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:45 pm to
Our adult ICU's are almost always near capacity.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:45 pm to
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icu beds per capita than we do dude
Fake news
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:45 pm to
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Well that 3rd ranked healthcare system is getting ravaged while the UK, Denmark, Germany and several other European countries are handling this much better.


Italy has had more cases earlier. Let's not spike that football just yet.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:47 pm to
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Our adult ICU's are almost always near capacity.




This practically speaking is my biggest concern here.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:47 pm to
I misspoke.."available icu beds"
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Italy has had more cases earlier. Let's not spike that football just yet.



Italy also has a malaria outbreak in 2010 that also involved illegal immigrants from China. It spread so much because those infected were reluctant to seek out medical care due to their illegal immigrant status. Couple that with China keeping the outbreak hush hush, and you have the perfect storm for a deadly outbreak.
This post was edited on 3/13/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Italy has had more cases earlier. Let's not spike that football just yet.


The virus was confirmed in both countries at the same time. All I keep seeing is how poorly the US has handled this situation.

Compared to Italy, I'd say we're doing alright in that regard.
Posted by Paige
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
Do you just sit around watching for posts you can make a super dumb argument to?
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:49 pm to
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adult ICU's are almost always near capacity.





yup. not sure why it matter anyway. Italy health system better than most and they are suffering. thats a big takeaway to me
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
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This practically speaking is my biggest concern here.


At least here in Baton Rouge at OLOL, there’s not a lot of ICU beds to begin with, and they stick tons of people in there, sometimes when they should be moved to hospice.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66922 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Our adult ICU's are almost always near capacity.

with overflow patients from other nursing floors maybe
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7795 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
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The virus was confirmed in both countries at the same time. All I keep seeing is how poorly the US has handled this situation.

Compared to Italy, I'd say we're doing alright in that regard.




Agreed. I don't know why though we haven't stepped up testing here in the states yet.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Do you just sit around watching for posts you can make a super dumb argument to?


Do you get your panties in a wad every time someone makes a point that shows this "pandemic" isn't as bad as it's being made out to be?
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
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they have more doctors and available icu beds per capita than we do dude


lol

We have 3x more icu beds per capita than Italy
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