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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:47 am to skullhawk
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:47 am to skullhawk
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and the reason why social distancing is being employed. The majority of people are going to be exposed to the virus. Slowing down this exposure is key to allow the healthcare system to be able to handle the cases.
Exactly. Canceling all these events sucks. But slowing the spread to spare our healthcare system from being overloaded is well worth it in the long run.
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:48 am to SaintsandTigers
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Its based on evrything I have ever read with any virus You have to contract it in someway If an asymptomatic person with the virus is merely next to you, it isnt going to jump from their body to yours miraculously Someone coughing sneezing next to you with the virus gives you a far greater chance to contract it You cant possibly be needing a link for that, right?
They have found that the viral load in the throat is 1,000 times higher in the early stage when you aren’t symptomatic. So we don’t really know when you are most infectious but it may not be as intuitive as you think.
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The nine patients, who were admitted to the same Munich hospital, were studied because they had had close contact with an index case. Cell cultures and real-time polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) were done on throat swabs and samples of sputum, stool, blood, and urine. Throat swabs showed very high viral shedding during the first week of symptoms. The findings contrasted starkly with those from the 2003 outbreak of SARS in terms of viral load. "In SARS, it took 7 to 10 days after onset until peak RNA concentrations (of up to 5x105 copies per swab) were reached," the researchers wrote. "In the present study, peak concentrations were reached before day 5, and were more than 1,000 times higher."
I feel like you don’t research anything and just regurgitate talking points that sound good to you.
By the way, we talked about this research a day before the guy on Rogan’s podcast discussed it. I wonder if he lurks here
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 11:51 am
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:52 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Fine
I feel like you don’t research anything and just regurgitate talking points that sound good to you.
I really dont care what you put in front
Thinking you have a greater chance to catch it from an asymptomatic person over a person with symptoms is insane
Does the viral load have qualities that make it "more contagious" when asymptomatic? Possibly yes. That has happened with other viruses as well
BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO CATCH IT THROUGH EXPOSURE
A person coughing and sneezing is going to give you a far greater chance to that exposure
But it is scary to say the opposite, so I see why you are supporting that
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:52 am to Dr RC
We seemed to handle it fine in 2009 when this happened right here at home.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:53 am to Dr RC
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Canceling all these events sucks. But slowing the spread to spare our healthcare system from being overloaded is well worth it in the long run.
Agreed. The abundance of caution is absolutely worth it, because we can handle the outbreaks as long as they are regional and can be contained. It's not a sheer capability issue, its merely a volume issue. We have the technology to handle the patients, we just don't have the quantity. We limit things for a year or so until we can develop a vaccine or if it happens to decrease in warmer months. It will suck but its not the end of the world.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:54 am to ell_13
quote:How can you look at whats happening in Italy and think this in anyway compares to the swine flu?
We seemed to handle it fine in 2009 when this happened right here at home.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:56 am to tgr4ever
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How can you look at whats happening in Italy and think this in anywa
I guess it comes back to what is really happening in Italy.
Not that there is false info, but why is it so much worse there.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:57 am to tgr4ever
Why is italy the comparison? This is what I mean. Why not Germany?
We don’t have Italy’s problems.
We don’t have Italy’s problems.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:57 am to tgr4ever
The swine flu had 1000 deaths in the US alone before we even took notice.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:57 am to SaintsandTigers
You need to calm down
All I’m saying is that this virus, based on scientific studies I’ve linked, behaves differently than we have seen in other coronaviruses. So just making broad assumptions based on what sounds good in your head is pretty irresponsible. Nobody really cares if you believe that. Just stop attacking other people without any evidence.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 11:58 am to SaintsandTigers
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 6:42 am
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:00 pm to lsutiger2010
World Health Organization (WHO)
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"We have therefore made the assessment that #COVID19 can be characterized as a pandemic"-
@DrTedros
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@WHO
"We have therefore made the assessment that #COVID19 can be characterized as a pandemic"-
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This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:00 pm to Fun Bunch
The swine flu started here in spring. Had a million cases by the middle of summer. And 55 million by the end of February. It wasn’t till october that the state of emergency was declared although a health emergency was already out at the end of April. The vaccine came out that January. Our health care system didn’t collapse.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:03 pm to ell_13
It’s funny the same people wanting us to truly prepare and hunker down for this, are shitting on the swine flu like it was nothing
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:03 pm to tgr4ever
quote:Swine flu killed 595,000 worldwide. COVID19 is not going to top that number.
How can you look at whats happening in Italy and think this in anyway compares to the swine flu?
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:05 pm to ell_13
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We don’t have Italy’s problems.
We aren't kissing each other on the cheeks
seriously though, all the things people make fun of us for probably help
we have a higher sense of personal space than most cultures
we all have cars and don't use a lot of mass transit
we have single family homes
our elderly parents don't live with us
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:05 pm to barry
Or have a 23% elderly population
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:06 pm to ell_13
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Why is italy the comparison? This is what I mean. Why not Germany?
We don’t have Italy’s problems.
Why did Italy not have problems with H1N1? Italy has matched the death count from H1N1 in the past 2 days. Italy already has 10x infections and ~3x the deaths compared to the H1N1 outbreak.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:07 pm to tigerfan88
quote:Italy has a very large elderly population, especially in the hard hit areas.
frick. Is it really just that Italy has that many old people?
Italian culture is also very touchy feely, acquaintances greet each other with kisses on the cheek and just generally more hands on than other cultures.
Smoking is also big in Italy.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 12:07 pm to NOFOX
Swine was most deadly to the young and the older population faired very well. There’s your answer.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 12:08 pm
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