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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/6/20 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 6:50 pm to
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People die in my community every day from car crashes, gun violence, and chronic health problems. More people will die from those things in the United States tomorrow than they will from the amount of people Coronavirus has so far killed.


This talking point is so old. Does anyone actually fall for this garbage?

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My problem is with those who are trying to create mass hysteria. Take the state of California for instance. They just declared a state of emergency. And for what?


They do that to tap into federal funding to fight the virus not to create hysteria. You aren’t a very deep thinker that’s for sure.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 6:54 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21544 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 6:55 pm to
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People die in my community every day from car crashes, gun violence, and chronic health problems. More people will die from those things in the United States tomorrow than they will from the amount of people Coronavirus has so far killed.


This talking point is so old. Does anyone actually fall for this garbage?


Eventually, everyone dies. Why is anyone worried about that

Or maybe, the world is already a dangerous place and there are lots of people that don't need another thing out there that can kill them?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 6:57 pm to
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They do that to tap into federal funding to fight the virus not to create hysteria. You aren’t a very deep thinker that’s for sure.


A state of emergency to fight a virus that has infected a grand total of 60 people in a state with a population of 40 million? Give me a freaking break.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21544 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 6:59 pm to
South Korea continues to have the best data set in the world and their naive CFR is 0.7%. If we could isolate the numbers from today and track those cases to resolution without adding any new cases, the CFR can only go up. There is the statistically unlikely solution that no one else dies in that group and the CFR stays at 0.7%.

SK data - LINK

They currently have 6,415 active cases. Unfortunately, some of those are going to die and raise the CFR for this batch of data.

South Korea highlights:

164,740 test run
136,624 negative results
21,832 pending
6,284 confirmed

Of that 6,284 confirmed



There is a lag in case resolution data because it is taking 3 - 6 weeks for people to recover.

Right now we are on the green line for SK but will eventually move to the red line as the 6,415 active cases are resolved.



LINK

So right now, today, it looks like the WHO estimate of a CFR between 1 - 2% is probably about right. What will it be in a year? Hopefully, a lot lower with treatments and vaccines in the works.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:00 pm to
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Or maybe, the world is already a dangerous place and there are lots of people that don't need another thing out there that can kill them?


We live in the most peaceful, most prosperous time in the history of humanity. Everything we need from food and clothing to entertainment and sex is just a click of a button or a tap of a screen away.

This virus gets absolutely no coverage in the press 50-55 years ago because there were actually things going on that affected large numbers of Americans.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:02 pm to
That data is just telling us what we already know. Deaths are mainly occurring in the elderly population.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 7:03 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:04 pm to
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state of emergency to fight a virus that has infected a grand total of 60 people


That's a bold assertion that your grand total will not grow.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8447 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:08 pm to
Any information out there about the impact on pregnant women and children after birth?
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13560 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:14 pm to
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This virus gets absolutely no coverage in the press 50-55 years ago because there were actually things going on that affected large numbers of Americans.

Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18170 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:14 pm to
From China data, pretty no affect but those are 3rd trimesters. Not sure about 1st or 2nd.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71159 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:15 pm to
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That's a bold assertion that your grand total will not grow.


I'm sure it will. But this virus has been in the United States for roughly 45 days. And in that amount of time we have 240 confirmed cases and 11 or so deaths - all but two of them occurring inside an assisted living facility for the elderly.

If it were so contagious and so widespread as many people on this board seem to want it to be, I feel like we would have seen viral videos of Americans collapsing on the streets by now. We would hear stories of co-workers, friends, and family members falling violently ill without warning.

It shouldn't matter if we're doing testing for the disease or not. There should be an all out siege going on at thousands of ERs along the West Coast right now with people infected by this virus. We haven't seen any of that.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 7:16 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:18 pm to
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A state of emergency to fight a virus that has infected a grand total of 60 people in a state with a population of 40 million? Give me a freaking break


So is there a number of infected in your head that you would call an emergency for? Let’s hear what you would do.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:27 pm to
Until the CDC get its head out of its arse and starts testing a lot more people you are correct in saying the confirmed numbers are low.

In other words, if we keep testing low, we won't have any more confirmed cases. What could go wrong?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53474 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:38 pm to
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China is full of shite


China also locked away anyone who had a fever under strict house arrest a month and a half ago......
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:41 pm to
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Hawaii's first case of coronavirus is a former passenger of the Grand Princess cruise ship
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:47 pm to
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Funny thing is y’all are probably get the trifecta.

Fear and event cancellations limits interpersonal contact.

Case rates fall as a direct result.

Fewer people become sick.

Claim validation that fear was unwarranted when that same fear is what stopped it.


Can you make more exuses for when this isn't the pandemic you're hoping for?
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7625 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:53 pm to
I'm going to identify as female until this thing blows over.

Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53474 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 7:54 pm to
Pssssst.

You’d be hard pressed to find anything I’ve posted in the past 2 months that was doom casting. Don’t be salty just because I said the reasons why you think this won’t be a doomsday scenario were ill informed


Is your claim that, regardless on if they warranted or not, all of these closures and cancellations won’t be a brick wall on possible spread?
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 7:55 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:12 pm to
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Don’t be salty just because I said the reasons why you think this won’t be a doomsday scenario were ill informed



You claimed this would be responsible for a million deaths using what is call wishful math. I don't think there's enough info to make that claim with any sort of certainty yet. But people using your logic are pushing the freak out narrative.

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21544 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:15 pm to
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