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Posted on 2/27/20 at 4:30 pm to Indefatigable
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Me thinks that the CDC's position on this is "don't ask questions you don't want the answers to".
But at the same time, they had some fairly high ranking officials within the organization making pointed statements about how this could "change our lives". Now of course they're hustling to reassure people that we'll be testing like banshees before long.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 4:33 pm to VABuckeye
Sorry.
I’m just nervous about getting Corona Virus. I’ve always hated Corona. Now that it’s a virus, I’m livid.
I’m just nervous about getting Corona Virus. I’ve always hated Corona. Now that it’s a virus, I’m livid.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 4:34 pm to BRgetthenet
Pacifico virus is better
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:00 pm to Burhead
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The Washington Post has an article up about a whistleblower saying that HHS personnel were working with patients without PPE. I
whistleblower has been reassigned.
how dare she speak truth?
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:02 pm to frankthetank
I’ m not so concerned with Caronavirus, but if the Titovirus shows up I’m in big trouble.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:03 pm to cuyahoga tiger
It's the Deep Eddy's virus that will wipe me out.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:04 pm to BRgetthenet
It's all good. I'm agonizing over a trip to Spain that's supposed to occur in May. I understand that's selfish because people are dying from this shite.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:05 pm to MrLarson
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A real doctor admits to having no clue but you have it all figured out.
You're the other end of the spectrum that you bitch about daily.
Your reading comprehension is abhorrent. Go back, read my post, and then laugh at your ignorant take.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:06 pm to The Pirate King
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Where’s slackster? We need his opinion. He said this was a nothing burger
What do you want/need to know?
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:09 pm to slackster
LA Times
Facebook, Microsoft, Epic Games cancel California conference plans over coronavirus.
Concerns about the spreading coronavirus have prompted three major tech companies to cancel plans for upcoming conferences in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Microsoft announced Thursday it was pulling out of next month’s Game Developers Conference in San Francisco.
Microsoft Game Stack said in a tweet that the decision came after “a close review of guidance by global health authorities and out of an abundance of caution.”
Facebook followed suit shortly after, announcing that it was canceling its annual F8 Developer Conference set for May 5-6 in San Jose.
By 11 a.m., Epic Games had announced that it, too, was pulling out of the Game Developers Conference, set for March 16-20.
Facebook, Microsoft, Epic Games cancel California conference plans over coronavirus.
Concerns about the spreading coronavirus have prompted three major tech companies to cancel plans for upcoming conferences in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Microsoft announced Thursday it was pulling out of next month’s Game Developers Conference in San Francisco.
Microsoft Game Stack said in a tweet that the decision came after “a close review of guidance by global health authorities and out of an abundance of caution.”
Facebook followed suit shortly after, announcing that it was canceling its annual F8 Developer Conference set for May 5-6 in San Jose.
By 11 a.m., Epic Games had announced that it, too, was pulling out of the Game Developers Conference, set for March 16-20.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:30 pm to MrLSU
I know positive information is frowned upon around here, but global active cases (cases where the patient hasn't died/recovered yet) peaked 10 days ago at 58,747. Despite the new cases outside of China, active cases have fallen to 46,607, a decline of 20% over the last 10 days.
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:32 pm to CelticDog
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whistleblower has been reassigned.
Ciaramella Ciaramella Ciaramella
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:42 pm to slackster
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I know positive information is frowned upon around here, but global active cases (cases where the patient hasn't died/recovered yet) peaked 10 days ago at 58,747. Despite the new cases outside of China, active cases have fallen to 46,607, a decline of 20% over the last 10 days.
I believe in the Chinese quarantines. Could we pull off something like that globally if other countries continue to worsen? Is it worth it or do you take your chances hoping something else stops it to try to save the economy?
I’m glad I don’t have to make these decisions
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:43 pm to Jon Ham
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Italy has about 650 infections and 15 deaths, so a 2% death rate. Given that it spreads just as easily as the flu, which has a much lower death rate, how can this not be a serious concern?
Scruffy handled this already, but to put it another way:
A) You cannot compare the confirmed cases with the seasonal flu. Seasonal flu numbers you see reported are the CDC estimates. Only a fraction are actually confirmed. Also, when there is an outbreak of a novel virus, you're going to be catching nearly every death, most critical cases, but, once again, only a fraction of the total cases. The nature of testing (and the need to test) are strongly biased towards more sick patients.
B) The case fatality rates, R0, and other numbers dropped around here are pretty useless in the real world. SARS had an estimated R0 that is very similar to this outbreak and had a substantially higher case fatality rate (11%), yet it infected fewer than 9000 people and killed roughly 800. On paper, SARS was a pretty bad mofo that was just as contagious as the flue and 100x more deadly, yet it ended up killing what amounts to a rounding error in US flu deaths every year.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:43 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Could we pull off something like that globally if other countries continue to worsen?
Hell no. People would be rioting here in the US. The government in China can mostly do as they please.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:47 pm to slackster
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B) The case fatality rates, R0, and other numbers dropped around here are pretty useless in the real world. SARS had an estimated R0 that is very similar to this outbreak and had a substantially higher case fatality rate (11%), yet it infected fewer than 9000 people and killed roughly 800. On paper, SARS was a pretty bad mofo that was just as contagious as the flue and 100x more deadly, yet it ended up killing what amounts to a rounding error in US flu deaths every year.
I’m not sure the R0 of SARS is really comparable. I think that remains to be seen as we learn more about asymptomatic carriers.
SARS was eventually stopped through containment and strict tracking, it never reached sustained community spread. We aren’t there yet but that is what everyone is afraid of.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:47 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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I believe in the Chinese quarantines. Could we pull off something like that globally if other countries continue to worsen? Is it worth it or do you take your chances hoping something else stops it to try to save the economy?
The thing I have to keep telling myself is the world is taking drastic measures to contain this virus forever (like SARS). All of these actions that are sacrificing economic interests make sense when you think about what an annual drain on resources this virus could be.
I know I've made a ton of influenza comparisons, and I'll do it again - if you have the chance to basically stomp out a flu strain before it ever gets going, you should do it. In that light, these efforts are understandable, but on the surface it seems like a ton of overkill.
Posted on 2/27/20 at 5:48 pm to slackster
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global active cases (cases where the patient hasn't died/recovered yet) peaked 10 days ago at 58,747. Despite the new cases outside of China, active cases have fallen to 46,607, a decline of 20% over the last 10 days.
You've done a lot of reading on this subject. What do you think about the Chinese numbers? If this is a highly contagious disease, even with their inter-province travel restrictions, is there any way that they managed to essentially ring fence it within a single province?
My opinion is that either their numbers are bad wrong somewhere, or they've found a cure and put it in the water. Is there some other reason the numbers would soar in one province only, and then fall off a cliff? I don't think quarantines, which likely started to late to have much effect anyway, would be that effective.
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