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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:20 pm to
Fake outrage aside, does what she is saying not seem realistic? This shite is too wide spread to seem to be able to be contained. It does also seem like it will impact our daily lives, based on what we are seeing elsewhere
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33417 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:21 pm to
She was beating the alarm drum in Jan. Bet she’s TDS. She may be related to Rosenstein
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61463 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:21 pm to
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Glenn Beck was preaching today to prepare thy anus
reason enough to disregard the threat
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40869 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:21 pm to
I'm thinking of pulling a Volvagia now because I know how other people lose their fricking minds at the earliest onset of rumors.

Anyone in Texas knows the stupid shite that happened after Harvey with the gas runs in Dallas and Austin.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5340 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:21 pm to
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When I say oral, I mean a saliva and/or nasal swab that is run through a RT-PCR test.


What I had read a couple of weeks ago was that the oral swabs possibly suffered from improper collection technique and may not achieve adequate sampling of virus. Never confirmed that and didn't know if it was correct.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7291 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:22 pm to
Her statement may mean that her kid's lives would be disrupted because of the amount of working hours coming if/when the virus takes off here. If that's not what she meant then she is just looking to make headlines.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33417 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:22 pm to
I was waiting for him to advertise prepper kits
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:23 pm to
If you self-quarantine or school is closed for a few weeks, I think that qualifies as a significant disruption to life.

It doesn't mean that society will collapse.

Here is something that might help put this into perspective:
COVID19: What do we have to fear from a pandemic?
Brief bio:
quote:

Jennifer Cole PhD is an Associate Fellow at the Royal United Institute for Defence and Security Studies a UK-based policy think tank, where she ran the Resilience and Emergency Planning programme until 2018. She worked with UK and international government agencies on policy planning around the response to serious infectious disease outbreaks. She is now a full-time Research Fellow at Royal Holloway, University of London.


quote:

So is SARS-Cov2 a disaster? A death sentence for the world? The end of civilisation as we know it? The evidence is increasingly saying ‘no’[4]. Pandemics have, in the past, been all those things but at the same time, all ‘pandemic’ means, in literal terms – ‘pan (all) and demos (people)’ – is ‘everywhere in the world’. It denotes the geographic range of the spread, not severity of the disease, but tends to be interpreted by lay audiences as the latter only. This is precisely why WHO revised how they used the term following the 2009-10 H1NI ‘Swine Flu’ pandemic [5]: when the virus responsible turned out to cause only mild disease in most cases, they were criticised for over-reacting and of encouraging countries to ramp up unnecessary countermeasures. The media prefer to hear about PHEICs – Public Health Emergencies of International Concern [6] – because they’re easier to make headlines out of. Emergency! Concern! – even though PHEICs may not be everywhere or much of a threat to most people other than the ones whose job it is to deal with them.

Anyone remember the Polio PHIEC of 2014 [7]?. It didn’t spark sensational headlines because the world has a vaccine. The fact that the vaccination programme had broken down in war-torn Syria, putting thousands of Syrian children at risk – but no-one else – wasn’t a good enough story. Ebola – which was happening at the same time – got much more attention. There was more of a threat from a disease that didn’t have a vaccine – although, as it turned out, even that threat was reasonably easily mitigated by any quarter-decent healthcare system [8]. A few years before, Swine Flu had made the headlines when people who don’t usually die if they catch influenza thought they might, but everyone then lost interest when they realised that this wasn’t the case [9]. At the same time, the papers forgot that more than 600,000 people die each year from normal seasonal flu [10] – up to 10,000 in the UK alone [11]. This is also pandemic, but no-one really worries too much about it. So how does all this relate to coronavirus SARS-CoV2? Should we be scared that (a) it’s a PHEIC and (b) that it may or not be ‘officially’ a pandemic depending on whose classification is used and how that classification is made?


It's a good read.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33417 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:26 pm to
She is Rod Rosenstein’s sister
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5279 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:31 pm to
Just got a 14 day supply of food for “just in case.” If I need to stay at the house for a while I can and not need to go anywhere. I am usually not one to prep. But as soon as the hysteria hits the public the market shelves will be empty.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85157 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:31 pm to
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This shite is too wide spread to seem to be able to be contained. It does also seem like it will impact our daily lives, based on what we are seeing elsewhere


Does the annual Flu outbreak substantially impact our lives? Occasionally, yes, but as a whole, not really.

Look at SG as an example, there was an initial breakout and ramp up to 60 cases and people made runs on markets... There was never an interruption in daily lives outside of additional precautions and their cases have slowed to a crawl. Life it back to normal for the most part there.

Fear mongering like her statement and her despicable virtue signaling of “I talk to my kids about things and I warned them because I am so highly educated... You should warn your kids too because its going to be terrible” is what will lead to unneeded runs on goods should there be a widespread outbreak here.

Btw, does the immunization chief often make statements around the impact of something, to which, there isn’t immunization for? I could see her coming out and giving an update on where they stand in regards to testing and developing something, but not the impact of a virus.... Seems like this wouldn’t be her world and she was using this as an opportunity to make a name for herself.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:32 pm to
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This isn't at all concerning:

"CDC immunization chief, Nancy Messonier warns "disruption to everyday life may be severe" from coronavirus in the US. She told her children over breakfast: "Right now, we as a family need to be preparing for significant disruption of our lives."




I've read a couple articles that discuss her presser. She is basically saying to make preparations and discussing what it would look like if the US starts making nationwide measures.

I'll be honest - a few more comments like this and this country will be a fricking shite show.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40869 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:35 pm to
Ya that's the rub. At this point I have zero concern about this virus. I do have concern about how people will react to her statements and misinformation.

What happened after Harvey here was a case in point. Some rumor came out about gas shortages. So everyone starts hitting the gas stations hard. They started running out of gas and so the whole thing became a self fulfilling prophecy.

Me being the calm one almost ran out of gas that week.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:39 pm to
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Does the annual Flu outbreak substantially impact our lives? Occasionally, yes, but as a whole, not really.


You can continue to say flu all you want, this is not being treated like the flu at any levels though, regardless if you think this is just as harmful or even less harmful than the flu.

This is shutting down shite in the countries it's spreading through. This is already by all accounts "effecting" our daily lives through the impacts we will feel in China and the stock market. That's before the virus even becomes prevalent on our shores. You can angle this shite all you want to try and get around it, but this is clearly going to be a huge deal and will impact us even more so than it already is.
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5279 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:45 pm to
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I'll be honest - a few more comments like this and this country will be a fricking shite show


Exactly. That’s really why i bought my supply. Shelves will be empty once the media starts creating real panic. People empty grocery stores for snow storms. We are good about creating a false sense of panic.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
18176 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:50 pm to
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ust got a 14 day supply of food for “just in case.


what does that look like?
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6974 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:51 pm to
Just wanted to drop in and say frick China. Wash your damn hands.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Fake outrage aside, does what she is saying not seem realistic? This shite is too wide spread to seem to be able to be contained. It does also seem like it will impact our daily lives, based on what we are seeing elsewhere


Idk. Swine flu was widespread in the US - anywhere from 22-55 million cases. Killed over 10k. Don't remember much changing for me in 2009.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11824 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:54 pm to
A very good point for comparison.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61463 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 1:54 pm to
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I was waiting for him to advertise prepper kits



Gold, a survival kit, and a special edition face mask.....
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