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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:30 pm to GetCocky11
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:30 pm to GetCocky11
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Are yall still going to push this narrative when the mortality rates in South Korea and Italy end up being the same as the ones being published by the Chinese?
It's a completely different situation. Medical care in China is a mixed bag. In the first-tier cities, there are hospitals that are state of the art medical facilities with Western-trained doctors. These hospitals are expensive and used by the very wealthy and top CCP members. They are relatively small. More common are the local hospitals with doctors trained in China in both Western medicine and Traditional Chinese medicine. There are also Traditional Chinese medicine only hospitals/clinics. Great medical care is available in China, but most is not up to Western standards.
When a city was placed in quarantine, people were required to go to a hospital and get a "quarantine certificate". When you see pictures and videos of the hospital desk being overwhelmed with people and lines that are block long of people waiting to get into the hospital, it was to get their quarantine certificate. The quarantine certificate is used to prove that you are complying with the quarantine and to get medical access if you need it during the quarantine. I think this process helped to spread the virus with many people together in relatively confined areas for hours.
Once a city was quarantined, they have to survive with what they have. Not much is getting into the city as far as medical supplies or food. Deliveries are apparently allowed, but the truck and driver are being quarantined outside of the city with the driver inside his truck for 2 weeks before they are allowed to leave. Once the patient load exceeded the number of beds available, things got difficult. Patients started getting less attention. They started running out of medicine. Doctors and nurses started getting sick. More and more patients were arriving all the time.
There is a huge difference in care a patient will receive in Korea with a few hundred infected with all medications and supplies available vs. Korea with 100,000 patients and no medicine available. South Korea numbers now are probably best case that will be seen with treatment anywhere until an effective treatment is developed. Overwhelm a medical system and run out of medication and guess what happens to the death rate? This is one of the things that tells you the Chinese numbers are bull shite.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:33 pm to Burhead
I’d like to know what’s going in Iran. Deaths there are a lot higher than even in China.
How many times do I have to tell you guys that China lied from the beginning and is still lying now. That is what liars do. The numbers if told truthfully would blow your mind.![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/Iconusaflagsmiley.gif)
How many times do I have to tell you guys that China lied from the beginning and is still lying now. That is what liars do. The numbers if told truthfully would blow your mind.
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:45 pm to rickyh
Iran won’t tell us anything. Poor medical care and a dictatorship won’t help the numbers.
South Korea and Italy are where the truth lies. I’d like to see numbers of critical patients in those countries.
South Korea and Italy are where the truth lies. I’d like to see numbers of critical patients in those countries.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:53 pm to slackster
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Like usual, you misunderstand the point from the get go. The point was that you cannot expect to shut down global travel/trade every time some fishy pneumonia cases pop up. Surely you understand why that's infeasible.
Funny bc that is what we have now.
"We often meet our destiny on the road we take to avoid it"
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:55 pm to slackster
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Do you live in the US? If so, the flu is still a substantially higher threat to your health.
We know. Are we all incapable of take precautions with the flu and discussing this virus? Or if we discuss this virus that means we will not wash our hands or get the flue vaccine?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:04 pm to MarinaTigerEsq
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Based on travel experience, I expect to hear about cases in Italy very soon- most likely Venice and Florence first. The Chinese mob these places in groups, year round.
Bump and Wow- I got six downvotes for this post (versus three up). I hope the downvoting frickers feel tarded.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:05 pm to MarinaTigerEsq
They will just say you hope the world burns and don't care about the flu.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:16 pm to TigerFanatic99
quote:I assumed we were talking apocalyptic type of scenario, where the virus simply wipes out everyone who contracts it eventually. It would basically work like herd immunity, since dead people could no longer contract and spread the virus.
How does it burn itself out though if immunity doesn't develop?
Considering how many of us there are and how spread out we are, there is essentially zero chance of it reaching everyone. It would obviously be devastating and catastrophic, but I can't imagine a virus causing extinction.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 2:34 pm to Korkstand
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Considering how many of us there are and how spread out we are, there is essentially zero chance of it reaching everyone. It would obviously be devastating and catastrophic, but I can't imagine a virus causing extinction.
Consider an airborne form of AIDS that takes 10 years to manifest symptoms. That would give ample time for everyone to be exposed before the carriers got too sick to be mobile.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:08 pm to Jim Rockford
Senate to receive classified briefing tomorrow LINK
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:11 pm to Jim Rockford
It’s already here.
This will be longest thread in td history. Inb4 how many pages is that?
This will be longest thread in td history. Inb4 how many pages is that?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:11 pm to Jim Rockford
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Senate to receive classified briefing tomorrow
We'll have to catch it to find out what's in it.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:11 pm to Jim Rockford
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Consider an airborne form of AIDS that takes 10 years to manifest symptoms. That would give ample time for everyone to be exposed before the carriers got too sick to be mobile.
A virus needs a host to survive and replicate. It wouldn’t be a very good virus if it killed every single host.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:12 pm to 1BamaRTR
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The world has survived the Black Plague and numerous other epidemics more than once despite them having very little scientific knowledge at all. I think it’s pretty damn safe to say the human race isn’t going to cease to exist because of this.
Was that the only caveat I gave there? Did I say it was the only way forward? A few weeks ago we all thought this was a big nothing and would be contained. It's still continuing to spread, people are still continuing to die, and we still don't seem to have any idea what so ever about incubation period, reinfection, or period that one is contagious. Joke all you want, those seem to be pretty important to managing this though.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:19 pm to Jim Rockford
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Senate to receive classified briefing tomorrow
They can't just openly say the Chinese did it and here is what we know?
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:21 pm to MrLarson
Likely talking about a myriad of things involved. Stockpiles of meds/protective garments including masks. Going over plans for hospital expansions etc. if this were to kick off as well as bolstering research and what that means/looks like.
Sad that they are having this briefing behinds closed doors though. None of this talk should be classified from American people, period.
Sad that they are having this briefing behinds closed doors though. None of this talk should be classified from American people, period.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:37 pm to frankthetank
Current Coronavirus deaths world wide= 2,628
Flu deaths in the United States two years ago= 80,000
Flu deaths in the United States two years ago= 80,000
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:38 pm to Mizzoufan26
You saying it’s possible we’re all going to die is about an extreme overreaction as it gets. Plenty of those unnecessary reactions out there on social media.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 3:39 pm to Mizzoufan26
Does anyone actually believe Baton Rouge can be quarantined? it would be like being trapped inside a prison during a riot.
Posted on 2/24/20 at 4:27 pm to Dominate308
A little break in the doom and gloom:
LINK
LINK
LINK
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PARIS, Feb. 24 (Xinhua) -- The last patient hospitalized in France because of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) infection has been cured, French Health Minister Olivier Veran announced on Monday evening.
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So far France has registered 12 cases of infection, among which 11 have recovered. An 80-year-old Chinese tourist died on Feb.14.
In addition, more than 350 people have been quarantined since their repatriation from Wuhan, China. At present only the last batch, 28 people in total, remain quarantined at a holiday center in Calvados in western France.
LINK
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A 17-day-old baby has recovered from the deadly new strain of coronavirus after being born to a patient in the outbreak’s Chinese epicentre.
Xiao Xiao is the youngest in the country to get the all clear, having returned to full health without the help of any medication.
On the day she was born she was transferred to Wuhan Children’s Hospital where she was diagnosed with the strain of coronavirus known as Covid-19.
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