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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:29 pm to rds dc
Posted on 2/12/20 at 9:29 pm to rds dc
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BNO Newsroom @BNODesk · 3m BREAKING: Jiang Chaoliang has been removed as Party Secretary of Hubei province, according to state-run media; no reason given
He dead
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:18 pm to Malik Agar
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BNO Newsroom @BNODesk · 1m BREAKING: Zhang Xiaoming has been removed as head of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office; no reason given
And another one...
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:26 pm to PeteRose
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44 more cases on that cruise ship docked in Japan, bring total to 218. It was 10 cases a week ago.
So they aren’t letting anyone off this damn ship until EVERYONE ON IT catches this shite?
That’s wacked.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:28 pm to rds dc
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:30 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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So they aren’t letting anyone off this damn ship until EVERYONE ON IT catches this shite?
It’s like a strange science experiment
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:33 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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So they aren’t letting anyone off this damn ship until EVERYONE ON IT catches this shite?
It’s like a strange science experiment
Almost.
When the first cases were found there, the ship was forced to anchor in the center of Yokohama Bay. (There were pictures.) Then they announced the ship would go out to sea to purge its bilge and take on water for desalinization for drinking (and a presumably for a lesser treatment) for the ships water system. It returned to the Bay and anchored out and the limited number of sick people were placed on hospital beds and rolled onto a barge that otherwise would deliver food and other necessities. That barge would go into the dock area where the sick would be transferred to ambulances. Ambulances were dispersed to a number of Japanese hospitals.
The situation worsened. I expect just getting food replenished was part of the reason. But the number of cases that tested positive jumped. Someone then decided to dock the ship with many security fences,etc.. Now pictures of them removing the proven sick to hospitals by ambulance show it being done directly from the ship to the waiting ambulances dock side.
Food is delivered to the staterooms to which people are confined. Those poor SOBs without a window (much less without balconies) are allowed out for only 90 minutes a day to walk around the ship so long as they don't get within a yard of any other human being. Somewhere there is a video of them moving as if they have some sort of weird Brownian Motion only with lots of space.
I've cruised on a ship in the next to cheapest cabin available. No windows and not enough room to open all of our suitcases at the same time. Claustrophobic hell. I pity them. I also wonder at the general sanitation for the #s of sick to be climbing so precipitously when the ship off Hong Kong had one sick and three proven not (I thing the latter is correct) and all the rest have been released and have dispersed. What made the difference? And don't tell me its Micky Mouse power for the Disney ship (unless that translates to a younger clientele.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:11 am to real turf fan
Harvard expert Q&A on Corona:
news.harvard.edu
news.harvard.edu
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On severity, estimates are that it’s worse than seasonal flu, where about one in 1,000 infected cases die, and it’s not as bad as SARS, where 8 or 9 percent of infected cases died. I’ve been working with some colleagues on estimates. They’re preliminary still but bounded by those two. That’s a large range, however, so the important question is where the final figure ends up
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There’s likely to be a period of widespread transmission in the U.S., and I hope we will avert the kind of chaos that some other places are seeing. That’s likely if we continue to be prepared, but I think it’s going to be a new virus that we have to deal with. That won’t be because the United States government has failed to contain it, it will mean that this is an uncontainable virus. If we’re dealing with it, it’s because everybody’s going to be dealing with it. I think that’s a likely scenario.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:12 am to shell01
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Inovio is definitely playing fast and loose with terminology.
They're worth $335MM.
They don't have frick all when it comes to real, proven vaccines for Zika, Ebola, or MERS.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:13 am to transcend
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The evidence from other coronaviruses is that there is some immunity but it doesn’t last for long. Immunity to the seasonal coronaviruses lasts for maybe a couple of years, and then you can get reinfected. There’s a further question of whether that’s because the virus is changing or because your immunity is not very durable. Given that it’s a new virus, we can’t say anything with certainty, but it would be reasonable to expect immunity to be somewhat short-lived, meaning a couple of years, rather than lifelong.
GAZETTE: So without a vaccine, you may have a respite for a year or two but then you may get it again?
LIPSITCH: Yes, and that is a bit like the flu, although typically people get the flu every five or six years.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:14 am to transcend
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That won’t be because the United States government has failed to contain it
Yes, it will.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:26 am to lsu13lsu
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Yes, it will.
No, it won't.
There is no practical way to completely stop the spread of a contagious virus. You'd have to shut down international travel and trade every time a country has a handful of unexplained pneumonia deaths. That's simply not going to happen.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:29 am to slackster
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:01 am to lsu13lsu
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Yes, it will.
So US should block travel in an out of the country completely? For how long? 2yrs?
That would be the only way to prevent/contain it. Outside of that, its just being prepared to respond and providing all the info to the public and healthcare workers on how to minimize its impact.
That is where China F’d up... Same as SARS, refused to inform the public from the start and ask for outside help.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 5:03 am
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:41 am to Byrdybyrd05
This would align with the Chinese response of lockdowns and quarantines.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:13 am to crazyLSUstudent
Probably good chance of global pandemic. Every country cases are slowly creeping up. Vietnam(from) had 2 two weeks ago now they’re up 19. In over 25 countries now. And it’s hard to track down case as if someone has mild symptoms they may not make a trip to hospital and chose to stay home. With incubation period up to 24 days, that just compounds the problem.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:20 am to PeteRose
Japan had an 80 year old woman die and then test positive for coronavirus. First death there.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:28 am to slackster
1st death in Japan this morning she had already died when she tested positive. Japan also has 4 new cases of which the government doesn’t know how infection occurred. The woman never left the country.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:30 am to PeteRose
BNO Newsroom
@BNODesk
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3m
BREAKING: Dawu County in Hubei province announces "wartime" lockdown due to coronavirus, bans people from leaving their home
@BNODesk
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BREAKING: Dawu County in Hubei province announces "wartime" lockdown due to coronavirus, bans people from leaving their home
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:38 am to joshnorris14
That’s some dramatic language just to say no one can leave their home.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:39 am to joshnorris14
'Q' thread is lit. China welding doors shut on apartment buildings full of people and then burning them to the ground because of suspected virus infections.
Savage.
Savage.
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