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re: Cop shoots drunk disorderly fireman who should have complied

Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:19 pm to
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I don't understand? What do you believe was the miscalculation?

That he would be able to get control of suspect by changing position and getting on top of him from a different angle.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 4:21 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
37737 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

The guy was being arrested for assaulting someone. Unless you know that the cab driver kneed the guy in the head which escalated that situation, how can you say the guy wouldn't have done the same thing without the cop kneeing him?

The drunk was violent. He didn't need any reason to pound the cop. He just needed the opportunity.



99%of what VerlanderBeast says is just wrong, the guy lives on his own planet. Don't waste your time.
This post was edited on 2/28/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19189 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:01 pm to
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That he would be able to get control of suspect by changing position and getting on top of him from a different angle.


So are you ignoring the fact that in "changing positions" he kneed him in the head?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:03 pm to
quote:

So are you ignoring the fact that in "changing positions" he kneed him in the head?

What? In what way have I ignored that? I said, in hindsight, it was a miscalculation on the officers part.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68756 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

LOL did you watch the video? The guy wasn't at all being violent towards the cop until the cop kneed him in the head


So the cab driver must have done something to warrant getting beat by this same guy huh?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19189 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:17 pm to
It went from this:



the cop is under no threat

To the cop getting to a better position:



again the cop is under no threat from the guy and has everything under full control all he needs to do is get control of his wrist

To then a couple seconds later(as can be seen in the picture) brutally kneeing the guy in the head:





which then leads to the guy getting angry and proceeding to beat the shite out of the cop.
This post was edited on 3/1/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19189 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

What? In what way have I ignored that? I said, in hindsight, it was a miscalculation on the officers part.
Well you said "he changed positions to get a better angle" The cop could of done that without kneeing the guy in the head.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45069 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:24 pm to
You can't analyze every single thing the cop does in that moment. Bottom line is that the guy was beating the shite out of the cop and the cop had every reason to fire.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293231 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:34 pm to
quote:


cop was on a detail at a local hotel.


Side gig. He was working for the Marriott.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Dude had a great ground game.

Keyword: had

I usually try to avoid bringing my ground game to a gunfight.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19189 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

You can't analyze every single thing the cop does in that moment.
You can when it results in him killing an unarmed guy
quote:

Bottom line is that the guy was beating the shite out of the cop and the cop had every reason to fire.
Bottom line is cop got shite beat because apparently he thought he was a badass and kneed the guy in the head.
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16743 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

The cop could of


I can't get past this. Did you go to school or did you just forget everything? Maybe you should HAVE studied more often.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11478 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 6:13 pm to
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The people filming deserved to get the shite beat out of them. I know 99 percent of yall will disagree, but they let the cop get his arse kicked and if they would have helped sooner that fireman would still be alive. Those idiots would rather video something that they had no clue what was going on. I fricking hate people like that. This is on the bystanders. Disagree all you want


If I see a cop and a citizen in a fight, I will let them settle their differences. Zero chance I will jump into a fist fight I am not involved with and risk injury to myself...
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19189 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 7:51 pm to
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I can't get past this. Did you go to school or did you just forget everything? Maybe you should HAVE studied more often.
This is the only response when you can't dispute what I post. Thanks
Posted by Huey Lewis
BR
Member since Oct 2013
5049 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 8:17 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/3/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 10:37 pm to
frick the dead guy, it was his fault. Obey the cop at that point, THAT'S the law regardless of how many tmz wanna be's are out there!
There should not have been a death, but it was NOT the cops fault this time. I'm sure the drunk fireman thought he was above being arrested
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 2/28/14 at 11:23 pm to
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GeeOH
You're all about making sure everyone receives just punishment. You going to follow up with the police station?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19189 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:11 am to
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Shot a guy dead while getting his head bashed into concrete. That's pretty badass IMO.
That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26215 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 12:32 am to
I am not a cop fan at all but are there people stupid enough to argue this?
quote:

VerlanderBEAST
Well never mind
Posted by The Dude Abides
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2010
2260 posts
Posted on 3/1/14 at 2:21 am to
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Seems like if he wouldn't have tried to knee the guy he was trying to arrest in the head - while the guy was facing away - he wouldn't have been put in the position to get his arse handed to him in the fight.
Don't think he meant to knee him in the head, he was trying to gain superior position. If you control the head, you control the body. Obviously he failed.
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