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Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:32 am to CaptainsWafer
quote:
He “tried” to pay.
Not sure where you are going. He did what they agreed to and tried to pay the workers but that was refuted then the contractor took 18 months to send him the final bill.
For as much as the OT hates shitty contractors, it seems very odd to me that none of you can see that the contractor is to blame for this dilemma if what OP is saying is accurate.
Not saying OP shouldn't pay but I am saying OP should call and not back down that this is on the contractor and work something out.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 7:33 am
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:36 am to stout
Says in the OP he tried to pay the day the work was completed but the workers didn’t have the capability to accept the payment. They didn’t have hands to accept a check?
After your response that I replied to is when he said the agreement was to pay the workers when the work was completed.
You’d think if that was the deal, they’d be equipped to accept payments.
ETA I Know you have a skin in this game as well as an educated opinion, but the OP is trying to personify the “if a grocery item doesn’t scan it must be free” joke.
After your response that I replied to is when he said the agreement was to pay the workers when the work was completed.
You’d think if that was the deal, they’d be equipped to accept payments.
ETA I Know you have a skin in this game as well as an educated opinion, but the OP is trying to personify the “if a grocery item doesn’t scan it must be free” joke.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 7:38 am
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:38 am to stout
I think we all agree the contractor should've sent the bill sooner, that's just good business.
Doing what's right sometimes can be a bit difficult, that doesn't mean you still shouldn't do it.
Doing what's right sometimes can be a bit difficult, that doesn't mean you still shouldn't do it.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:38 am to stout
I love the holier-than-thou attitude of so many people in this thread
especially since I did not live in the house anymore, I would have no problem telling the contractor to kick rocks
especially since I did not live in the house anymore, I would have no problem telling the contractor to kick rocks
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 7:39 am
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:39 am to N2cars
quote:not my responsibility to reward the contractor's irresponsibility
Doing what's right sometimes can be a bit difficult, that doesn't mean you still shouldn't do it.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:41 am to N2cars
quote:
Doing what's right sometimes can be a bit difficult, that doesn't mean you still shouldn't do it.
I never said he shouldn't. I did say he shouldn't feel obligated at this point to put himself in a financial bind over it. Life happens and 18 months is a long time for someone's financial situation to change. People get sick and have medical bills, have emergencies, etc. The contractor can't expect to hit someone with a bill 18 months later and think it's going to get instantly paid IMO.
The OP should call and work something out if he can't pay it now or pay all at once.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:44 am to Rouge
quote:
I love the holier-than-thou attitude of so many people in this thread
especially since I did not live in the house anymore, I would have no problem telling the contractor to kick rocks
Truthfully I don't think the OP has any legal obligation at this point but anyone can be sued for anything at any point these days.
And of course, it depends on where your morals are.
I would probably pay but it would be a negotiated reduced amount over a time frame I was comfortable with. The OP has all the power in this situation now and can use it to his advantage if he wants to.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:45 am to CaptainsWafer
quote:
but the OP is trying to personify the “if a grocery item doesn’t scan it must be free” joke.
Apples and oranges
No way to compare the two. In this instance, the contractor knew for 18 months the debt was outstanding.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:49 am to stout
Still don’t know the amount or the work that was done.
Your ambiguous way of saying “they did not have the ability to accept payment” is a little fishy. Were you trying to pay some shovel hands with a credit card? You should have known better than to try that, if so.
They did the work. You owe them. Maybe not in the eyes of the law, but it doesn’t change the fact that they provided a service at an agreed upon price. He gave you an 18 month no interest loan. Pay the man and move on. The fact that this is a question nowadays is representative of the decline of our society.
Your ambiguous way of saying “they did not have the ability to accept payment” is a little fishy. Were you trying to pay some shovel hands with a credit card? You should have known better than to try that, if so.
They did the work. You owe them. Maybe not in the eyes of the law, but it doesn’t change the fact that they provided a service at an agreed upon price. He gave you an 18 month no interest loan. Pay the man and move on. The fact that this is a question nowadays is representative of the decline of our society.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:50 am to stout
What kind of shitty contractor doesn’t do a walk through or anything on project completion. It’s his own fault. I wouldn’t pay either. He’s got my deposit and that’s all he gets based on his own negligence
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:51 am to jbgleason
quote:
I kind of agree that a debt becomes dated at some point. You can’t sit around forever waiting on someone to ask to be paid.
Agree here as well.
Had a guy do some work on our around four years ago. Like OP, he didn't have the ability to accept card payment at the time of services and said he'd send me a bill. He didn't send it.
I called and left messages for weeks and he never called me back. I started googling to see if he was dead, but he was live and well. It was really fricking weird. Like he didn't want me to pay him? I don't know.
Eventually I gave up and never paid. It was only $300 or so, so it wouldn't have killed me if he sent an invoice 18 months later. But that would still be rather annoying to have to shell out money well after I placed it back into my budget.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:52 am to stout
Isn’t the 60 days for lien rights, but not a deadline for billing ‘rights’? Is there such a thing as billing rights?
I think there’s two issues here. The guy can send the bill and I think it’s still valid, but he’s lost a lot of leverage to collect it.
I think there’s two issues here. The guy can send the bill and I think it’s still valid, but he’s lost a lot of leverage to collect it.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:53 am to SMACKYtheFROG
Is the contractors name Matt Morris? He actually did the work so probably not.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:56 am to Meauxjeaux
quote:
Isn’t the 60 days for lien rights, but not a deadline for billing ‘rights’? Is there such a thing as billing rights?
The 60 days exist for a variety of reasons and one of them is actually to discourage situations like this from arising.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:58 am to Rouge
quote:
not my responsibility to reward the contractor's irresponsibility
Fine. You be you.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:01 am to stout
quote:
I never said he shouldn't.
I know, and you know I value your opinion quite a bit on these subjects.
quote:
The OP should call and work something out if he can't pay it now or pay all at once.
That's exactly what I meant by the taking the high road.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:04 am to SMACKYtheFROG
quote:
don’t have the cash on hand to pay
We typically pay people to work in this country...
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:07 am to stout
This is the correct answer and the ethical response.
They did the work successfully so you owe them for work performed.
Just call and come up with a plan.
They did the work successfully so you owe them for work performed.
Just call and come up with a plan.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:07 am to SMACKYtheFROG
The statute of limitations on breach of contract in [insert your State here] is 3 weeks so you’re good.
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