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re: Contractor invoice 1 year later

Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:45 am to
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:45 am to
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I tried to pay upon completion of the work per the agreement we had. His employees would not accept the payment and said their boss would call me that week to settle up. He never did, no bill sent, no contact, nothing for 1.5 years, and I sold the house where the work was done a year later. So I am not going out of my way to make sure some asshat who can’t keep his finances in order (through an entire calendar year) gets paid. There was no lien on the house when I sold it. I no longer own the property
You are the asshat here. Pay your debt.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39433 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:47 am to
Not sure why you got down votes, your advice is spot on.

Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138498 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:50 am to
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Not sure why you got down votes, your advice is spot on.
on because it is messed up that contractor can wait 18 months to invoice but then try to smack a lien on if net 30 is not met.

I'm thinking any small claims court would slap the contractor on the wrist and tell them to get their affairs in order.

I have a $600 business invoice outstanding that I was expecting back in December. Nothing from vendor after multiple inquiries in December and January. Once I get anything, it will take me months to process that invoice since we are in a new fiscal year.
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:51 am to
Tell them to send it to the address of the house you just sold
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1818 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:51 am to
Do you owe him the money? Yes
Now I would certainly negotiate the final payment amount and terms seeing as he waited so long to send you an invoice. Terrible business practice
Posted by Breaux
Member since Nov 2005
4622 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:52 am to
Just curious...

This is trashy, right?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181794 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:53 am to
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but when the contractor places a lien on your old home,


The time frame for the contractor to file a lien on the house has passed.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181794 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:54 am to
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Not sure why you got down votes, your advice is spot on.




Except for the whole 60 days to file a mechanics lien in Louisiana. You know...the law?

Liens must be filed within 60 days from substantial completion of the entire work.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39433 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:56 am to
Its different deal with contractors and residential homes. I wouldn't worry about small claims, but I bet that lein would muddy the waters when the new owner tried to sell.

Back in 2001, Orscle didn't invoice us for 11 months, total of $400K. All the while, we are collecting from NASA.

It was a PITA to keep that straight as we still obviously had to show the obligation on our books.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181794 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:58 am to
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You are the asshat here. Pay your debt.



No he isn't. He tried to pay.

I am a contractor and I would never do what the contractor did here. That is a poorly run operation and people like him are the reason contractors get bad reps. Many contractors use one job to fund the next so this guy is probably behind on money and digging into who he can get money from. That's his fault and not the OPs.

I agree the OP should call the person and figure it out but chastising the OP when he says he tried to pay and the other person took 18 months to bill him is a little out of line.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39433 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:59 am to
No, I didn't know that.


I just figured the contractor could still send invoices to the address and get new owners nervous.

But honestly, that's not even the point, if you know what I mean.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181794 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:00 am to
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but I bet that lein would muddy the waters when the new owner tried to sell.



How is the contractor going to magically lien the house 16 months outside of the time frame the law allows?
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 7:04 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181794 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:02 am to
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I just figured the contractor could still send invoices to the address and get new owners nervous.



He can scream until he is blue in the face but the best he can do at this point is take it to small claims and try to get a personal judgement against OP but even that would make the contractor look bad if what OP says is true and he can prove it.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40827 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:03 am to
Just wait until he hits you with the VIG.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
23206 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:04 am to
Don’t pay. I want to see how this plays out for your dumb arse on Judge Judy.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39433 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:04 am to
Yep, you're right, regarding the law.


And yes, obviously the contractor took too long to invoice.

But that doesn't change the fact that the service was performed and the OP should pay.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138498 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:07 am to
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Yep, you're right, regarding the law.


And yes, obviously the contractor took too long to invoice.

But that doesn't change the fact that the service was performed and the OP should pay.

no

Just no

Stop

If the contractor does not invoice me within the legal time frame to invoice, then that is their problem. Now if the invoice came within a month of the legal time frame, then you would have a point. This was over a year after the lien threshold had been met. Contractor needs to take this as a learning moment for their billing negligence.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 7:08 am
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5578 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:07 am to
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I tried to pay upon completion of the work

You put forth the least amount of effort you possibly could have if you even did that. Employees rarely accept payments for contractors. You don’t mention that you ever followed up with him. It sounds like you kept quiet hoping someone would give you a handout.
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So I am not going out of my way to make sure some asshat who can’t keep his finances in order (through an entire calendar year) gets paid.

What about the asshat who is trying to weasel his way out of paying for work he had done bc someone didn’t come knock on his door sooner? The fact is you had the work done. Pay for it!
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
181794 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:08 am to
OP should pay but I'd call the contractor first and tell him the truth.

"You took too long to invoice me which is your fault and this comes unexpectedly and I dont have the funds currently. What can we arrange?"

The contractor is the one at fault here if what op says is true and op shouldn't feel obligated to jump through hoops or put himself in a financial bind over it at this point.
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 7:26 am
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5720 posts
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:10 am to
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If the contractor does not invoice me within the legal time frame to invoice,


What is this time period?
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