re: Construction community in a panic- I’m hearing ICE is Havoc

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Or The Construction Management is paying workers very low so they get to keep massive cuts, now they will have to employ legals and pay more, the market price of jobs might not change, but simply cut what management takes home at the end of they day much lower. Instead of them keeping 80 and giving employees 20, it may now be 60/40. With the same price per job.

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Maybe, but probably not. Some cost increase is going to get passed to customers. Maybe all of it, maybe some of it. But something will. Especially when you figure out that it's not just wages, it's taxes, benefits, workman's comp, etc. It'll add up and erode the margins and when you throw in a little collusion thats how you have a recipe for higher prices.

It needs to happen, but its probably going to suck. Especially when a storm hits and there's a labor shortage.

Some of y'all obviously haven’t been around construction last 20 years.

Say it over and over. This will hurt the US economy in ways you can’t imagine. Pretend otherwise if you want to.

Literally the only people that can and want to do this work (along with chicken processing).

Gringos and black folks haven’t been skilled at this labor since 90’s (or wanted to do it).

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This will hurt the US economy in ways you can’t imagine.

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Like it isn’t already hurting this country already? Take your blindfold off.

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I guess they will have to hire legal workers

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Go find the US citizen who wants pour concrete and be a mason tender. Starting pay is roughly $45,000-$55,000 depending on your market in the southeast for an 18 year old with no degree. Within 5-7 years you can work your way up to a foreman and earn $125,000-$150,000 if you’re good at it. There is no one who wants to do this work. I spend a few days each month going to career centers and high schools talking to kids about the opportunities available to them in the masonry industry. Between all the reputable masonry companies in this area, we’re lucky to get 8 kids enter the industry; 1 or 2 of them might still be in it within 2 years. We are dependent on foreign labor because no one wants to take these open positions. We’re a country of lazy motherfrickers.

This isn’t just affecting the residential market. The commercial market is getting hit also, including multi-family / apartments. There are 3 new apartment job sites between LC and Lafayette that lost many of their framer/laborer crews. I currently have 11 local multi-fam’s in my project list currently under construction, with 6 to start in next quarter.. Major GC’s claim to hire only legals but do they? There is only so much trade labor and a large percentage of that is illegal. Simple math says new builds and all projects slow down. How slow will depend on the money of course.. This purge needs to happen but sucks for new construction, legit folks that earn a living in the industry, and ultimately the economy. The upside is maybe we can get all the unemployed, welfare drawing, homeless legals to get off their arse and work for a living (could not stop laughing while typing).

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Some of y'all obviously haven’t been around construction last 20 years. Say it over and over. This will hurt the US economy in ways you can’t imagine. Pretend otherwise if you want to. Literally the only people that can and want to do this work (along with chicken processing). Gringos and black folks haven’t been skilled at this labor since 90’s (or wanted to do it).

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thanks for copying and pasting this from Reddit to Tigerdroppings

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Literally the only people that can and want to do this work (along with chicken processing).

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if they want to do the work they can also apply for a work visa

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That’s the joke I needed to end the workday

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It'll take reform of the government cheese operation going on.

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Every poor podunk town sheriff wants his piece of the pie by having a poorly run corrupt work release that does no good for the community, the local businesses, or the incarcerated that would benefit from learning a trade.

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Someone on the contractor board in Louisiana owns sober living facilities and is good friends with a local judge. I will let you take a wild guess where he gets a lot of his labor force from for his construction company because they have no choice but to work for him.