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Concentration camps for freed slaves at the end of the Civil War
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:54 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:54 am
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Notice the references at the bottom of the article and the association the first researcher is a part of. You Natchez area folks familiar with this?
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As the slaves made their way to freedom, the town of Natchez went from a population of 10,000 to 120,000 people almost overnight. In order to deal with the population influx of recently freed slaves, a concentration camp was established to essentially eradicate the slaves. The men were recaptured by the Union troops and forced back into hard labor. The women and children were locked behind the concrete walls of the camp and left to die from starvation. Many also died from the smallpox disease. In total, over 20,000 freed slaves were killed in one year, inside of this American concentration camp.
Notice the references at the bottom of the article and the association the first researcher is a part of. You Natchez area folks familiar with this?
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Posted on 8/2/17 at 10:58 am to High C
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The men were recaptured by the Union troops and forced back into hard labor
I bet those recaptured were treated harsher by the union troops after the civil war than they were before the civil war.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:02 am to JETigER
Well, yeah. They pretty much all died according to the article.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:02 am to JETigER
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I bet those recaptured were treated harsher by the union troops after the civil war than they were before the civil war.
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However, a dearth of information about these mostly postbellum camps indeed leaves significant leeway for conjecture, and a smattering of conclusions say those detained preferred the slightly greater freedom compared to brutality found on the plantations. Additional critics dispute Westbrook and Estes, and the number who died in the Natchez camps, saying the number is likely closer to just 1,000 — but without methodical record-keeping, the figure is impossible to verify with certainty
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:02 am to High C
shite's been posted here before. There's not a whole lot of actual verifiable historical basis for the story.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:05 am to High C
Yes. I've heard about the Devil's Punchbowl housing 'freed' slaves after the war.
It's common knowledge.
Not sure they were just in the Punchbowl but also just down the bluffs in general.
Country Roads magazine even mentions it
It's common knowledge.
Not sure they were just in the Punchbowl but also just down the bluffs in general.
Country Roads magazine even mentions it
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 11:09 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:05 am to NYCAuburn
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slightly greater freedom compared to brutality found on the plantations
Were there Simon Legree type plantations? Yes.
Were they the norm? frick no.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:07 am to High C
how could something like that happen in post Civil War Mississippi???
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:09 am to udtiger
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Were there Simon Legree type plantations? Yes.
Were they the norm? frick no.
If one guy blows a .12 and another blows .24 on a breathalyzer does the lesser one get a pass?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:10 am to Machine
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how could something like that happen in post Civil War Mississippi???
It happened all over the South. These 'refugee camps' were all over the place.
Reddit about it.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:13 am to Y.A. Tittle
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shite's been posted here before. There's not a whole lot of actual verifiable historical basis for the story.
Didn't know it had been posted before. Yeah, the researchers are why I questioned the historical validity. There are several redneck, Confederate pride people on Facebook sharing this because of the Union Army's involvement in the mistreatment and deaths.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:21 am to High C
Sherman during his March to the Sea, started burning bridges behind his troops because the recently freed slaves were following his army in search of food. At one point 5,000 slaves were trapped on the other side of the river, where Confederate General Wheeler forces were close by, most of the former slaves drowned trying to swim across the river.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:23 am to NYCAuburn
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If one guy blows a .12 and another blows .24 on a breathalyzer does the lesser one get a pass?
Yes, the one that blows 3 times the limit has harsher consequences, to answer your question
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 11:24 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:27 am to High C
I didn't mean it as any sort of a "germans" point. This was just the first place I ever heard of this and I did a bit of digging after seeing it here and found there are a good bit of questions about the validity of a lot it.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:28 am to JETigER
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I bet those recaptured were treated harsher by the union troops after the civil war than they were before the civil war.
At least 3/5ths harsher.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:29 am to High C
Otherwise known as North BR & Nola East today.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:30 am to High C
The union troops used the slaves to make peanut butter
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:37 am to High C
Why do we have to keep bring up the past?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:37 am to ksayetiger
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Yes, the one that blows 3 times the limit has harsher consequences,
Thats not how it works
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to answer your question
you did not. ETA, actually by confirming they were both wrong, you confirmed my suggestion in the question
The comment about alluding to slaves being happy is kind of hysterical. Sure there might have been happy they were the slave they were in comparison, but lets not act like they wanted to be a slave or like they werent treated like subhumans. it was a straw man argument
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:37 am to High C
This all stems from a fantasy article written a few years ago, there was never any camp of any sort in the Devils Punchbowl, anyone who has ever been there laughs their arse of at the suggestion.
The "Punchbowl" is a place a boat could remain hidden just out the river that is inaccessible by land without some major effort. However local urban legends have everything from UFO's, bigfoot, slave camps,devil worshipers, Jean Lafitte s treasure, and lord knows what else down there.
The "Punchbowl" is a place a boat could remain hidden just out the river that is inaccessible by land without some major effort. However local urban legends have everything from UFO's, bigfoot, slave camps,devil worshipers, Jean Lafitte s treasure, and lord knows what else down there.
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