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re: Computer Science graduate find first full time job.

Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5521 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:56 pm to
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What would you consider full stack?


A BS impossible term that employers and recruiters use to find a unicorn. In essence they're asking for experts (just an example) in Angular, .NET, and SQL in just one person. And that stack is like the pumpkin spice latte of programming. I don't see how it's possible to specialize in every layer of development with the how vast each layer of the stack evolves.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
6819 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Kind of mixed thoughts on SQL. The cloud providers are really dumbing down the data layer and needing to know raw SQL.

Data Scientists seem to be the new hotness. You would need a basic level of SQL, but stronger in the mathematics world. Python, R, Scala and some Java work here.


I was more addressing the value of being able to communicate with users. In my many years, I've found that quite often, the IT programmers writing reports, websites, creating data warehouses, etc. aren't very good at communicating with their users. One that understands a bit about the data they are working with and can talk to their users without sounding completely geeky is worth their weight in gold.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:01 pm to
Don't forget ASP and Java and knowing every prime number up to 1 million.

I have a friend that works remotely for an insurance company. She is making just under 6 figures. Went from a bullshite program restter type gig to one with way more responsibilities that she was well versed on.

You can get pigeon holed in IT from what I hear from my friends. Don't let him do that.
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
231 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:02 pm to
charminultra

I wish we could contact each other directly here.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
35299 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:04 pm to
FYI, computer science and informatics are not the same thing.

There is some overlap obviously if you get certifications and such, but informatics positions are typically jobs such as computer systems analyst or business analyst that rely heavily on communication and soft skills, these jobs land at the intersection of a particular type of business (finance, healthcare, etc...) and technology.

In order to direct him, you're going to need to know what his concentration is in.

This is coming from someone with a master's in Healthcare Informatics.
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
6858 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:05 pm to
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good question. i'd rather not give an email or phone number since these frickers would blow my shite up...

let me think and get back to you.


charminultraTD@gmail.com

Can send all your message board spam there
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
231 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:10 pm to
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In order to direct him, you're going to need to know what his concentration is in.


Systems Administration
Posted by ozktgr
North Arkansas
Member since Mar 2020
360 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:13 pm to
Your son may not know exactly what he has interest in yet and that's ok. My company promotes a lot of employees from the help desk that are willing to work. Have him find some companies that he likes and get an entry level role doing anything.

While he cuts his teeth he can work on certs that he likes. I would recommend certs in either cloud platforms, automation, or security.
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
6148 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:17 pm to
Entry level is oversaturated as CS grads are competing with bootcampers and self-taught career switchers. Your son needs to make a few projects and put them on Github. Ideally, have a website that showcases those projects and links to those Github repos (or sites if deployed). Deploying can be done pretty easily and for free on Heroku. Check out Brad Travery's YouTube channel. He has a ton of videos working on small projects with different languages. As stated by others, a Cloud cert helps to stand out (AWS Cloud Practitioner will give your son a high level understanding of cloud infrastructure/services). Also, the hardest part is getting that first job. It gets soooo much easier to get a higher-paying job with a year of experience. Senior-level developers (2-3 years of experience) are in big demand and can name their price.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47329 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Degree in Informatics.


Informatics is not the same as a computer science degree.

Unfortunately he wont get nearly as many looks due to the degree requirements of the job.

If he lived in Huntsville with a computer science degree, he would have to fight off the recruiters
Posted by charminultra
Member since Jan 2020
2739 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 3:31 pm to
email me

charminultra3@gmail.com

just made it. send me his name and number and i'll reach out
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
231 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 3:31 pm to
charminultra


email at

tdmetd@gmail.com


thanks
Posted by Nolalakeview
Member since Feb 2015
1877 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 3:35 pm to
CGI in Lafayette is hiring
Posted by fatsdominos
Member since Jul 2019
193 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 3:55 pm to
IBM BR is hiring all the time, and it’s a good place to start a career. It has your usual consulting pitfalls like outsourcing and poorly managed projects, but you’ll be exposed to technologies, how projects work, and learn from some very bright people. If he doesn’t end up liking it, after a year or two he can turn that experience into more money elsewhere.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
40625 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:09 pm to
Which concentration did your son pick?

As others said, your son doesn't have a computer science degree. I looked at ULL's informatics curriculum and from what I can tell, they only require two semesters of CMPS courses in some concentrations.

That said, if he can demonstrate certain skills during a technical interview, then it doesn't matter. If he took ULL's CMPS 261 course, then he might be prepared for technical interviews, provided he remembers the material and can code it on demand.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
369 Cardboard Box Lane
Member since Nov 2019
13050 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:25 pm to
What level jobs is he applying for? Hopefully it's the most entry level possible to just get his foot in the door. Worry about money later.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:28 pm to
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Posted by GetMeOutOfHere
Member since Aug 2018
906 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

A BS impossible term that employers and recruiters use to find a unicorn. In essence they're asking for experts (just an example) in Angular, .NET, and SQL in just one person. And that stack is like the pumpkin spice latte of programming. I don't see how it's possible to specialize in every layer of development with the how vast each layer of the stack evolves.


I always considered it someone who worked across the whole stack, generalist instead of specialist.

If someone is expecting a domain expert across the board, well, good luck with that.

Amazed at how big people are on certs on this thread - always thought of them as overrated.
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3797 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:51 pm to
I am a technical recruiter. I would have to agree with the Amazon/Azure certifications. I know guys who had useless liberal arts degrees and they got well paying cloud practitioner jobs with the certs and passing the exams.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2693 posts
Posted on 3/31/22 at 4:53 pm to
My son was one of the first DBA grads from LSU..job offers everywhere..he needs to be proactive and just start calling firms in Dallas or Austin
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