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re: COMPLIANCE issue paramount
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:49 pm to LucasP
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:49 pm to LucasP
To me, the escalation after the first hint of non-compliance needs to be addressed. Things go south wayyyy too fast. Wasn't this a traffic stop for a busted tail light? Why was the cop asking for the PASSENGER'S ID????
Just give the driver a ticket and move on.
Just give the driver a ticket and move on.
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Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:49 pm to GenesChin
"Compliance" basically means do whatever a cop says or you will get shot.
Where is the "LAWFUL compliance" component??? Too many times police feel that you just do whatever they say despite the law. And their reaction, however hard, is ok, even if it is shooting someone over a busted twilight.
Where is the "LAWFUL compliance" component??? Too many times police feel that you just do whatever they say despite the law. And their reaction, however hard, is ok, even if it is shooting someone over a busted twilight.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:51 pm to munchman
Yes and no. You shouldn't struggle, but you also shouldn't just piss away your rights.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:51 pm to TDFreak
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To me, the escalation after the first hint of non-compliance needs to be addressed. Things go south wayyyy too fast. Wasn't this a traffic stop for a busted tail light? Why was the cop asking for the PASSENGER'S ID????
A group of coworkers and I (all white) got pulled over for speeding and the cop asked for all our ID's. It's not unusual at all.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:53 pm to upgrayedd
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To me, the escalation after the first hint of non-compliance needs to be addressed. Things go south wayyyy too fast. Wasn't this a traffic stop for a busted tail light? Why was the cop asking for the PASSENGER'S ID????
Cops do plenty of data mining while working in areas of high crime. They will log names of individuals they come across for reference at a later time. Not sure of it's legality, but they do plenty of it.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:53 pm to LucasP
Go back in time and stop the slave ships from coming to America.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:54 pm to Jcorye1
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Yes and no. You shouldn't struggle, but you also shouldn't just piss away your rights.
Couldn't agree more. But right now more than rights are being pissed away.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:57 pm to Halftrack
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Where is the "LAWFUL compliance" component??? Too many times police feel that you just do whatever they say despite the law. And their reaction, however hard, is ok, even if it is shooting someone over a busted twilight.
Problem is many times people do not understand the law or their rights.
The place to argue law and rights is at the station or courtroom not in the streets.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 1:58 pm to theenemy
Agreed. Cops should push less, so should people.
Posted on 7/8/16 at 2:05 pm to TDFreak
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Wasn't this a traffic stop for a busted tail light? Why was the cop asking for the PASSENGER'S ID????
Just give the driver a ticket and move on.
If this was a simple stop for a taillight and the video came on immediately after the victim was shot (as alleged)... why were there 5 cop cars in the video behind the victim's car???
This still doesn't make any sense to me... Cops don't send 5 units to pull over a black person for a busted tail light... and there couldn't have been time for them to just all show up after the initial shots were fired. That doesn't seem plausible.
I still say there is a WHOLE lot more to this routine traffic stop than just a busted tail light and an Asian cop shooting a black guy for no reason.
This post was edited on 7/8/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 7/8/16 at 2:17 pm to Halftrack
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Pissing away your rights.
Eh, we were drinking in the car on a road trip and the driver got busted doing 105. I wasn't about to get in a pissing match with AZ DPS
Posted on 7/8/16 at 2:46 pm to Halftrack
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The guy in Minnesota was complying and he got shot?
did the officer instruct him to get his carry license out? I don't have mine but I've been told that you keep your hands on the wheel/dash until the officer tells you to get it out
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