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re: Compared to H1N1

Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:53 pm to
Not sure how that’s true since no one has died under 10
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 2:57 pm to
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Maybe they don’t want 12,000 people to die again?
If 12,000 is a material number for you to take these measures, than you should be fighting for people to live in a mother freaking bubble year round
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 3:02 pm
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1175 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:00 pm to
I remember H1N1 because we were scrambling to find additional ventilators.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
49903 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:01 pm to
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. Yet nothing cancelled then


Roughly 600 schools shut down in 19 states
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117486 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:01 pm to
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Both H1N1 and H1N5 were worse than this.





You might want to wait until coronavirus runs its course before you start comparing it to other diseases.

Maybe the goal is to stop this before it is able to kill 12k people? Maybe they are reacting based on what they learned from H1N1?

And its not like EVERYTHING is shutting down. For the most part, we are still able to go about our normal life. Has anyone one this board's day to day life been impacted? Minus anything travel related, how has your life been impacted?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26442 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:15 pm to
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Maybe they don’t want 12,000 people to die again?


From a purely utilitarian perspective 12,000 random lives lost would be worth far less utils than the negative economic and other impact to hundreds of millions that our reaction to corona will have.

From a individualistic or moralistic standpoint maybe the assessment is different.
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:17 pm to
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From a purely utilitarian perspective 12,000 random lives lost would be worth far less utils than the negative economic and other impact to hundreds of millions that our reaction to corona will have.

From a individualistic or moralistic standpoint maybe the assessment is different.

Bingo. If you try and run the entire cog of a nation of 330 million by "caring" about 12,000 you are fricked perpetually going forward


I honestly am scared to say this, because frick going political, but like it or love it, caring for the few by taking from the many is about as baseline social welfare as you get
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:23 pm to
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From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (range: 195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (range: 8868-18,306) in the United States due to the (H1N1) pdm09 virus.

Additionally, CDC estimated that 151,700-575,400 people worldwide died from (H1N1) pdm09 virus infection during the first year the virus circulated.


Damn, sure seems like they could've taken much more drastic measures to save thousands of lives and people should've been a lot more worried about it.



Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13202 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:25 pm to
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Within 1 week now people on this board will finally realize that this is not a joke.




WE got 50....Jesus tap dancing Christ...50 new cases in the last 24 hours in the US.....Do you know how much of a joke that is with all that we are shutting down??? Here is a clue....that number is NOTHING... NOTHING... NOTHING.....Pandemic my arse.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:30 pm to
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WE got 50....Jesus tap dancing Christ...50 new cases in the last 24 hours in the US.....Do you know how much of a joke that is with all that we are shutting down??? Here is a clue....that number is NOTHING... NOTHING... NOTHING.....Pandemic my arse.




50 new confirmed by testing. Do you realize how many people haven't been tested? Wait until testing ramps up this weekend and next week.

The numbers will grow by several orders of magnitude.

And 50 is not right -- shite, just Nashville has doubled from 9 to 18 in the last 6 hours.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 3:32 pm
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5575 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:42 pm to
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WE got 50....Jesus tap dancing Christ...50 new cases in the last 24 hours in the US.


Link?

There were 307 added yesterday alone according to this site. LINK The NY Times tracker had about 150 new cases so far today.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 3:44 pm to
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WE got 50....Jesus tap dancing Christ...50 new cases in the last 24 hours in the US.....Do you know how much of a joke that is with all that we are shutting down??? Here is a clue....that number is NOTHING... NOTHING... NOTHING.....Pandemic my arse.


This is just embarrassing.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:10 pm to
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Coronavirus is a joke


based on?

15% of over 80 have died.

Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13202 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:11 pm to
Not embarrassing factual.

My site is the Johns Hopkins site and between 8:30 yeaterday morning and 8:30 this morning 50...

The hospitals I work with across the Country have been dealing with an "unknown" respiratory illness since at least December....the ONLY reason you fear mongers are calling this anything else but the "flu-like" illness it has been for a while is because of testing. I am positive that I had it in late January and early Febrary…..it is shocking what is being done in the name of stopping this "new" thing that has been here for months.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13202 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:14 pm to
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based on? 15% of over 80 have died.



Whut??? You don't even know the true number of infected to do that math.....Like I said in my last post. This has been in the US for months. Compared to H1N1 this thing is a pansy.

Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:18 pm to
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Not embarrassing factual.


Nope
quote:

the ONLY reason you fear mongers


I’m not fear mongering.

But keep digging.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13202 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:18 pm to
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There were 307 added yesterday alone according to this site. LINK The NY Times tracker had about 150 new cases so far today.



Well, there is your problem...The NY Times...the fear mongers and fake news screamers favorite Son.


Try a site like Johns Hopkins that DOES NOT include PRESUMPTIVE cases..only confirmed.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Communist USA
Member since Nov 2007
13202 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:35 pm to
You guys are a mess. keep freaking out...at least its something to do while everything is cancelled.
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:37 pm to
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You guys are a mess. keep freaking out...at least its something to do while


Look at your posts. Look at mine.

You are the one freaking out.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171891 posts
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:39 pm to
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It's absolutely a political ploy by the MSM to tank the economy with the election coming up.


fricking idiot.
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