- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Company Giving Nicotine Test
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:51 am to boddagetta
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:51 am to boddagetta
quote:
Does that mean they do a cholesterol check, skin biopsy, Family medical history, etc? I mean how invasive can they get?
They actually do a cholesterol check. As well as sleep apnea, depression,blood pressure and diabetes. Failure for any of these will result in disqualification. But that's for all DOT exams not just this one.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:52 am to boddagetta
quote:
I mean how invasive can they get?
How badly do you want to work there?
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:52 am to Mootsman
quote:
Sounds like a law suit waiting to happen.
You are told ahead of time it's required for employment
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:54 am to boddagetta
quote:
Thanks Obamacare. Does that mean they do a cholesterol check, skin biopsy, Family medical history, etc? I mean how invasive can they get?
This has zero to do with Obama care. Actually, I would think conservatives would applaud and support a company's right to hire who they please.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:56 am to LSUBoo
quote:
I'm not an expert.
FIFY
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:57 am to GAFF
My company charges different insurance rates for tobacco users. They could be testing for your rates.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:58 am to Klark Kent
quote:
a nicotine test? why the hell would an employer care if someone had a nicotine addiction?
I know MD Anderson Cancer Center tests for nicotine, for obvious reasons. I'm sure a lot of organizations in that space follow similar policies
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:02 am to GAFF
I ran into this with Southern Company as well. Supposedly they can detect if you smoked or dipped in the previous 90 days. I would think this was part of the drug screen.
From what little research I could find, the test is really geared to detect daily tobacco users. Hydrate really well and there is a good chance you'll be fine.
From what little research I could find, the test is really geared to detect daily tobacco users. Hydrate really well and there is a good chance you'll be fine.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:05 am to AlexLSU
in 21 states, employers are allowed to not hire if that person smokes, since they're not a protected class. the majority of hospitals in Ohio won't hire smokers, and they tell you ahead of time that you must not have consumed/inhaled nicotine and tobacco within 90 days of hire, and then abstain from it during employment. few reasons why:
1) lowers insurance premiums for the employers, which is the biggest reason
2) increases worker productivity - I hear people on the OT talk about how it's become somewhat acceptable that smokers are allowed to take smoke breaks, but if a non-smoker wants to take an extra break, he/she gets chastised
3) terrible smell for everyone. from working in a hospital, I can tell you that it's terrible for cigarette smoke to linger and for everyone to have to deal with it for 12 hours at a time
this is actually an interesting case in terms of freedoms and rights, and to what extent employers are able to "invade" on your personal life
BTW, a ton more places are going to adopt these policies, since it's much cheaper for the employer
1) lowers insurance premiums for the employers, which is the biggest reason
2) increases worker productivity - I hear people on the OT talk about how it's become somewhat acceptable that smokers are allowed to take smoke breaks, but if a non-smoker wants to take an extra break, he/she gets chastised
3) terrible smell for everyone. from working in a hospital, I can tell you that it's terrible for cigarette smoke to linger and for everyone to have to deal with it for 12 hours at a time
this is actually an interesting case in terms of freedoms and rights, and to what extent employers are able to "invade" on your personal life
BTW, a ton more places are going to adopt these policies, since it's much cheaper for the employer
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:06 am to jeffsdad
quote:
I would think that would have been included in the drug screen since they are usually done on the same equipment.
The screen typically does not check for nicotine; the confirmation, on the other hand, usually does.
Detection window for nicotine in urine is 2-4 days.
Good luck.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:07 am to PMHBammer
quote:
PMHBammer
Thanks. I'm not even a smoker. Just the occasional cigar. I thought I was clear after the drug screen then I learned last night that a urine sample was required during the exam too though they claim it's only for protein checks.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:09 am to Panny Crickets
quote:
The screen typically does not check for nicotine; the confirmation, on the other hand, usually does.
Not sure I understand what you're saying
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:13 am to GAFF
There wont be a confirmation done on a negative test. Screens are premlinary tests and confirmations are done on positives of the screening, unless you are on meds which should have shown up and do not....the a confirmation is done on the negative result.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:14 am to Skillet
quote:
No way would I hire a cigarette smoker.
Since when does the cashier having hiring responsibilities?
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:16 am to GAFF
Sorry, GAFF. I stand corrected. Nicotine can be detected in a screen. However, it's going to be a qualitative measure. In other words, the screen can't yield how much nicotine, just whether or not it's present in the urine specimen.
If your employer sends it off for confirmation (they won't--very expensive), that would yield levels.
Apologies for any confusion.
If your employer sends it off for confirmation (they won't--very expensive), that would yield levels.
Apologies for any confusion.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:17 am to jeffsdad
But would that have all not been done at the screen? Basically if a positive came up it would have essentially failed me.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:18 am to GAFF
If you are in La.:
Universal Citation: LA Rev Stat § 23:966
§966. Prohibition of smoking discrimination
A. As long as an individual, during the course of employment, complies with applicable law and any adopted workplace policy regulating smoking, it shall be unlawful for an employer:
(1) To discriminate against the individual with respect to discharge, compensation, promotion, any personnel action or other condition, or privilege of employment because the individual is a smoker or nonsmoker.
(2) To require, as a condition of employment, that the individual abstain from smoking or otherwise using tobacco products outside the course of employment.
B. A smoker, as referred to herein, is limited to a person who smokes tobacco.
C. Nothing in this Section shall preclude an employer from formulating and adopting a policy regulating an employee's workplace use of a tobacco product or from taking any action consistent therewith.
D. Any employer who violates the provisions of this Section shall be fined up to two hundred fifty dollars for the first offense and up to five hundred dollars for any subsequent offense.
Universal Citation: LA Rev Stat § 23:966
§966. Prohibition of smoking discrimination
A. As long as an individual, during the course of employment, complies with applicable law and any adopted workplace policy regulating smoking, it shall be unlawful for an employer:
(1) To discriminate against the individual with respect to discharge, compensation, promotion, any personnel action or other condition, or privilege of employment because the individual is a smoker or nonsmoker.
(2) To require, as a condition of employment, that the individual abstain from smoking or otherwise using tobacco products outside the course of employment.
B. A smoker, as referred to herein, is limited to a person who smokes tobacco.
C. Nothing in this Section shall preclude an employer from formulating and adopting a policy regulating an employee's workplace use of a tobacco product or from taking any action consistent therewith.
D. Any employer who violates the provisions of this Section shall be fined up to two hundred fifty dollars for the first offense and up to five hundred dollars for any subsequent offense.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:18 am to GAFF
did you f'ing KNOW about the nicotine test before you had the cigar? if so, you didn't really want the job.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:20 am to CCTider
quote:
That's crazy. I can't imagine they'll be allowed to bit hire someone over legal use of a product.
I can not hire people all day in Colorado for failing a drug test for weed
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:22 am to Panny Crickets
quote:
Panny Crickets
But if a company was doing a nicotine test would it be safe to assume that it would be done during the drug screen?
Popular
Back to top


1




