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re: Colonial American English Pronunciation (For Linguist Nerds)

Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:15 am to
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12817 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:15 am to
Can we get people to stop putting unnecessary “r’s” at the end of words that end with the letter A.

Like NASA, I heard someone say “NASAr”

Also,

People that put the “T” in Mountain on the wrong syllable. They say “mount-ain” instead of “moun-tain”
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3148 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:17 am to
quote:

The cities of Boston,New York and other port cities had close ties with England after they stopped pronouncing the r and is why people from those cities have a much softer r pronunciation than the rest of america.

You find that also in the, now dying, historical Charleston accent. Great examples of that accent floating around on YouTube.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32805 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:22 am to
I always pictured it like this:

Posted by MGP
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
359 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:47 am to
You can still get froid shramp in south Louisiana
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124589 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 6:53 am to
So they sounded like stereotypical pirates, which sounded Cornish.


Call em Hardars.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 7:19 am
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21353 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:05 am to
quote:

The real old-timers in Richmond, VA will pronounce about and house like a-boot and hoose. The accent is dying but it can be heard in the rare occasion.


Exactly how my grandma pronounces those words. And she is definitely a Richmond old timer.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38946 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:08 am to
aka the “transatlantic accent”
see Cary Grant, william F Buckley, etc
Posted by Big Daddy Kayne
Member since May 2020
419 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:27 am to
What a great post. Answers a lot of my own questions about how the colonials really sounded. And I enjoyed listening to the narrator.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48527 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:36 am to
It's all very well thought-out indeed, but, upon listening to it, it sounds so very much like the modern Irish accent that I wonder if there is some mistake. I wonder because I have a difficult time accepting that our Colonial ancestors in the Boston area spoke with what sounds like a modern Irish accent.

It makes sense, however. Also, I must keep in mind that Boston Colonials certainly sounded different from the Colonials in Savannah, GA, and other points South.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3985 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:42 am to
No the Transatlantic accent didn’t come about until the invention of the radio
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3419 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:45 am to
Nice post
Posted by Santiago_Dunbar
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2021
214 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 8:03 am to
The John Adams miniseries on HBO nails the pronunciations from this era, the actor playing Franklin did his homework for sure.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6564 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 8:38 am to
Folks on the eastern shore of the Chesapeake still sound much like this. Even on the other side of the bay in Maryland, among the country natives you will hear "aboat" and "loin."
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6612 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 9:40 am to
I love nuances of language.

One of my favorites is how the British pronounce "clerk."

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124589 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 10:03 am to
quote:

No the Transatlantic accent didn’t come about until the invention of the radio


I think something similar happened with RP (Received Pronunciation) in Britain. It was the BBC accent
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