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College loans are a scam

Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:05 am
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
10558 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:05 am
YouTube - How college loans got so evil

8 million in default???

Debtors prisons making a come back?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:06 am to
I don't believe scam means what you think it does. And I say that as someone with college debt.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90521 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:08 am to
You borrowed money to pay for something expensive. You signed the papers

Where's the scam?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:09 am to
people spend more on cars than their education....
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32711 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:09 am to
Loans, school cost, path of study, etc.

All are to blame and they are all intertwined.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:10 am to
It's not a scam, but it is a broken system.

Schools raising prices because the government guarantees their checks is obnoxious
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7885 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:10 am to
Not a scam but there are 2 things incredibly corrupt about the system.

1.) The entity in charge of looking after the students i.e. student services at universities, etc. have an interest in seeing students rack up loans. Lots of folks don't realize this and assume they have their best interest at heart.

2.) The process of getting loans is WAY to easy...a few clicks on the internet.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29166 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:10 am to
I think it's insane we push people into college that shouldn't be there and allow 18 year olds to take out enormous sums of money on degrees that won't pay shite but I don't know if I would call it a scam.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:11 am to
You knew what you were getting into
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:15 am to
quote:

College is a scam


Ffy fgt
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2542 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:17 am to
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8 million in default???

Defaulting on student loans will probably lead to the next bubble collapse like we saw with the whole mortgage crisis because majoring in gender studies isn't gonna pay off your loan.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:17 am to
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It's not a scam, but it is a broken system.

Schools raising prices because the government guarantees their checks is obnoxious




in state tuition at LSU is roughly 11k a year, so a degree is roughly $44k. I can almost guarantee that the vast majority of grads spend that amount on a car in the 10 years after graduating.

Why do people put off on paying for student loans, 10 plus years but have no problem in paying off a car note in a short time.

The problem is people symbolically value education, but get pissed when you put a monetary value on it.

Hell private school education cost more than college but no one cares about that.
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
10558 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:20 am to


Thanks for all the personal attacks, I'm not in the 8 million people.

8 million people.

If true, that's more than a couple of people.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:22 am to
One hole in your logic is that a lot of times when a person graduates they end up getting a job that had jack shite to do with their major, thus not valuing the education they paid for and not actively paying it back. Not saying it's right. And I'd like to see where you found the average college graduate spending $44k on a car within 10 years of graduating

Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29166 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:22 am to
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You knew what you were getting into


I'd hazard to guess a lot of these kids really don't though. They don't teach adequate personal finance skills in hs, councilors pushing them into college instead of trade school even if that's not the right fit, and the mantra of follow your dreams and study litererature etc gets them in over their head quickly.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68266 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:23 am to
Spot on.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:23 am to
Not a scam at all. But it's a good reason to think carefully about why you're going to college and what you hope to accomplish. And then go do that.

If you're going in order to party for five years and get a 2.75 GPA (if you graduate at all) with a degree in General Studies then you're doing it wrong.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:23 am to
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Thanks for all the personal attacks, I'm not in the 8 million people.


Autocorrect, sry.

Loans aren't the problem here though.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32473 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:25 am to
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And I'd like to see where you found the average college graduate spending $44k on a car within 10 years of graduating

Not sure where he got that, but the average price paid for a new vehicle is 33.5k. It's not hard to guess that a college graduate would spend more than an average person on a car.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 11:25 am to
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Not a scam at all. But it's a good reason to think carefully about why you're going to college and what you hope to accomplish. And then go do that.

If you're going in order to party for five years and get a 2.75 GPA (if you graduate at all) with a degree in General Studies then you're doing it wrong.


Try explaining this to the average 17/18 year old. America props up college to be the gold standard. Have fun telling 17 year old jimmy that it's not for him.
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