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re: Coal miners headed to work in the 1900s
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:31 am to Kafka
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:31 am to Kafka
quote:Owlie chose to.
FWIW Charles Bronson's father was also a coal miner. Bronson was so poor as a child he had to wear his sister's old dresses to school.
He says they made him feel pretty.
And it's dark as a dungeon and damp as the dew,
Where danger is double and pleasures are few,
Where the rain never falls and the sun never shines
And it's dark as a dungeon way down in the mines.
-Merle Travis 1946
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:42 am to Jake88
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You forgot, receive about 40k in aid from the govt.
Well that goes towards phones, tvs, cars - everything but food.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 11:09 am to Arkapigdiesel
They didn’t have enough money to go out west. Most weren’t even paid money, they were paid in tokens where they had to shop in company stores for provisions. Pretty much slaves to the companies.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:28 pm to martiallaw
When the black lung got so bad you could no longer work, you died a slow agonizing death without pay.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:30 pm to DavidTheGnome
My great grandfather was a miner. He got killed inside of Red Mountain. Grateful my life is a hell of a lot easier than that.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:32 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Frick that. I’d rather starve to death than put myself into that sardine can plummeting into the depths of the Earth.
I bet once you actually began starving to death your tune would change
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:36 pm to DavidTheGnome
This is why unions were established. The working conditions today are a direct result of their involvement. But many on here think that businesses just gave better working conditions and better pay out of the goodness of their hearts.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:37 pm to DavidTheGnome
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Frick that. I’d rather starve to death than put myself into that sardine can plummeting into the depths of the Earth.
For a lot of areas, especially here in Kentucky if you were a man you were working in the mine or you moved out of the holler. The coal companies owned the store in town and you were given coal script instead of money as pay for that reason (i.e. “Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go. I owe my soul to the company store”). There was no viable infrastructure (and still isn’t) for other employment opportunities locally. There’s a reason they’re doing things like teaching them coding and bee-keeping instead of building a factory in places like Hazard.
Some of y’all never been to a Kentucky holler and it shows.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:46 pm to Cool Hand Luke
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This is why unions were established
Absolutely. I think many folk now think unions have outlived their usefulness and are now a detriment.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:48 pm to biglego
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This is why unions were established
Absolutely.
Yep.
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unions have outlived their usefulness and are now a detriment.
Yep.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:50 pm to biglego
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Absolutely. I think many folk now think unions have outlived their usefulness and are now a detriment.
Unions once served a great purpose. Now they mostly keep shitty employees employed.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 12:54 pm to biglego
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Absolutely. I think many folk now think unions have outlived their usefulness and are now a detriment.
IMO is depends on the profession and the leadership. I wouldn’t work in education without a union between the sue happy parents, poor local legislation, and administration that will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 1:00 pm to DavidTheGnome
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I’d rather starve to death than put myself into that sardine can plummeting into the depths of the Earth.
Hunger is a powerful motivator. Not only that, the hunger of your kids and wife without your job is the biggest factor.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 1:04 pm to DavidTheGnome
When men were men and provided for their families.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 1:05 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Some of y’all never been to a Kentucky holler
any reason we should?
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it shows.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 1:07 pm to DavidTheGnome
Back before government regulations sucked the life out of business.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 1:08 pm to 777Tiger
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any reason we should?
We have some beautiful land up here. And yes, people should travel.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 1:08 pm to DavidTheGnome
Hail Trump! Got to save these jobs
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