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re: CNN: The US would be better off with fewer billionaires
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:38 pm to Smeg
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:38 pm to Smeg
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If Jeff Bezos didn't exist, how would your life be different? How much more money would you have in the bank today?
Probably a lot since I wouldn't be giving him so much of my money.
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Billionaires have done more for the poor than government.
Kind of irrelevant to the point. The funneling of wealth to the top is absolutely real and unbeatable. I'm as anti-government as it gets, but let's not pretend people like the Koch's are prioritizing looking out for the poor.
Kind of irrelevant to the point. The funneling of wealth to the top is absolutely real and unbeatable. I'm as anti-government as it gets, but let's not pretend people like the Koch's are prioritizing looking out for the poor.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:40 pm to cave canem
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you will no longer be entitled to either and damn well will not be able to transfer money outside the country.
Certainly not once Bernie and his commie Bros startdipping their hands in everyone's accounts.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:40 pm to East Coast Band
I have no idea how/why there are people (democrats) that want such a meddling government, freedoms lessened, and such a strong shift towards socialism.
As has been stated numerous times, liberalism is akin to a mental disorder.
As has been stated numerous times, liberalism is akin to a mental disorder.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:43 pm to upgrayedd
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Yep, and what did they do when their dabbling forced the economy into recession? They used it as an opportunity to further regulate the very market that they fricked up in the first place. They're playing arsonist, firefighter, and fire marshal all at the same time
Yep, fricking Barney Frank and Chris Dodd did as much to cause it as anyone else and they were put in charge of fixing it
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:45 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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I have no idea how/why there are people (democrats) that want such a meddling government, freedoms lessened, and such a strong shift towards socialism.
As has been stated numerous times, liberalism is akin to a mental disorder.
The other side of the coin is no different. The Republicans want to meddle is many things as well. What you can put in your body, who you can marry, what country can we "liberate" next.
Believing somehow the parties are different in a way that matters is how they control the populace. Both support big government absolutely. Don't be fooled by smoke and mirrors.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:47 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Kind of irrelevant to the point. The funneling of wealth to the top is absolutely real and unbeatable. I'm as anti-government as it gets, but let's not pretend people like the Koch's are prioritizing looking out for the poor.
Prioritizing? Maybe not, but most of these uber wealthy people are involved with either philanthropy or other personal causes.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:47 pm to Arkapigdiesel
Ok there has to be some libatards in here for this too be 9 pages. Anyway frick Bernie and his socialist politics. I didn't defend this country to have these idiots and I guess their followers trying to tell us how we need government to take care of us.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 4:56 pm to upgrayedd
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Prioritizing? Maybe not, but most of these uber wealthy people are involved with either philanthropy or other personal causes.
Sure. Some of them are probably even sincere with it. Others just use it as a shelter to lower their taxes. It's a very gray area I suppose.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:01 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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What you can put in your body, who you can marry, what country can we "liberate" next.
What is marriage? The only reason the government should care about marriage is for the nourishment of the population. Simply put, non-straight marriages do not produce children.
With that being said, the government should be out of marriage entirely. That's a common conservative position.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:03 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Sure. Some of them are probably even sincere with it. Others just use it as a shelter to lower their taxes. It's a very gray area I suppose.
Even if they're using it as a tax shelter while actually helping people, then who's really losing besides the DC machine?
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:06 pm to upgrayedd
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Even if they're using it as a tax shelter while actually helping people, then who's really losing besides the DC machine?
Exactly, regardless of the motive the outcome is the same, and who in their right mind would think the government would use the money more effectively.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:11 pm to East Coast Band
CNN has been financially propped up by hostile foreign interests for a while now. It's no surprise that they've just decided to say frick it and go full-on communist.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:11 pm to upgrayedd
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Even if they're using it as a tax shelter while actually helping people, then who's really losing besides the DC machine?
That is true. That's why I said it was kind of gray. The problem I think comes in when they buy politicians with the remaining fortune and thus get to shape policy for everyone else.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:30 pm to EA6B
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Exactly, regardless of the motive the outcome is the same, and who in their right mind would think the government would use the money more effectively.
I just don't understand how people can say it's more morally palatable to have the money taken from people, give it to a group of corrupt politicians who then turn around and use it to essentially buy votes and get kickbacks than to give it directly to the people that need it.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:31 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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The problem I think comes in when they buy politicians with the remaining fortune and thus get to shape policy for everyone else.
I completely agree with that. Humans will act in their own self interests which is why I despise the thought of consolidating power in DC.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:36 pm to East Coast Band
Quick! Name a country that became more prosperous after eliminating “the rich”.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:36 pm to East Coast Band
Most of these billionaires worked and earned their money. Many starting off with nothing.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:37 pm to upgrayedd
quote:Means-tested morality.
I just don't understand how people can say it's more morally palatable to have the money taken from people, give it to a group of corrupt politicians who then turn around and use it to essentially buy votes and get kickbacks than to give it directly to the people that need it.
Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:38 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Others just use it as a shelter to lower their taxes.
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