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re: Climatology: more hot, dryness for Texas
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:23 am to Indefatigable
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:23 am to Indefatigable
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I don't remember the last year that wasn't predicted to go this way.
They say it every year.
Sigh......no, they don't.
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:28 am to GumboPot
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I made a little table for the OT. It's starts at CO2 concentration of 415 and temp of 70 degrees F and calculates the new temperature at a new CO2 ppm. This assumes all other atmospheric gases are adjusted downward proportionally as CO2 concentration increases.
Your table seems to differ wildly from this.
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Historical data as well as future climate models show that global warming is (approximately) directly proportional to the increase of CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. More specifically: every time the CO2 concentrations rise by 10 ppm (parts per million), the mean global temperature increases by 0.1 °C.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:29 am to BabyTac
quote:lol, MORE dry & hot.
Climatology: more hot, dryness for Texas
Commanches and Apaches were like "no way white man ever come here" in the 18th & 19th century.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:31 am to Corinthians420
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I made a little table for the OT. It's starts at CO2 concentration of 415 and temp of 70 degrees F and calculates the new temperature at a new CO2 ppm. This assumes all other atmospheric gases are adjusted downward proportionally as CO2 concentration increases.
Your table seems to differ wildly from this.
That is a properties of matter approach.
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Historical data as well as future climate models show that global warming is (approximately) directly proportional to the increase of CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. More specifically: every time the CO2 concentrations rise by 10 ppm (parts per million), the mean global temperature increases by 0.1 °C.
This is a statistical approach.
On the previous page in this thread I wrote this:
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:33 am to goofball
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Yeah last years drought will extend another year.
Hopefully not.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:34 am to Corinthians420
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More specifically: every time the CO2 concentrations rise by 10 ppm (parts per million), the mean global temperature increases by 0.1 °C.
Also someone please explain this from a physics point of view in terms of the he amount of heat required to change its temperature by one degree.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:39 am to olddawg26
quote:Common ground can’t be found. Know why?
Gotta be able to find some common ground at some point
One side is dishonest about the data, and one isn’t.
The climate crazies are incapable of actually discussing the data, for them there IS NO DATA older than a few hundred years old. Ask any of them what will happen when the temperature gets 20-25 degrees warmer on average. Not if, when, because it will happen whether humans exist on the planet or not. After they quit frothing at the mouth you’ll probably get “everything will die”, which is laughable.
You keep hearing “warmest ever recorded”, which is true, as it tends to warm up after an ice age and we had one very recently. That of course means “since the invention of the thermometer” and isn’t remotely close to “warmest ever”, but ask a climate crazy if they mean warmest ever the answer you’ll get will be yes.
“Fastest warming ever”. Is that a true statement? Take a gander at the curve from the Cambrian Ordovician boundary, the Devonian period, the Permian… there’s simply no way to make that statement as a statement of fact, it’s what most people would call a WAG (wild arse guess).
The funniest thing of all? Look up Icehouse and Hothouse, and realize which one we’re in right now.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:44 am to llfshoals
Wait I'm in the side of people that believe in manmade climate change and I believe none of the shite you just said haha.
It's not the hottest its ever been and it isn't warming faster than ever. An asteroid hitting the earth or a huge volcanic eruption spreading fires would have a way faster impact
It's not the hottest its ever been and it isn't warming faster than ever. An asteroid hitting the earth or a huge volcanic eruption spreading fires would have a way faster impact
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:51 am to BabyTac
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more hot, dryness for Texas
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Texas is about to burn up
We get four months of brutal heat in return for 8 months of mild pleasant weather with a cold spell here and there every year.
Package Deal
Anyone that's from Texas knows this and has accepted it.
Each year, everyone says it's getting hotter. Maybe it is. Or maybe we're just getting older and less tough. Probably a combination of both.
Want perfect weather all year?
Move to SoCal and live amongst the deplorables and pay state taxes and live without any semblance of law and order - I'll take the 4 months of heat.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:53 am to North Dallas Tiger
quote:what
for 8 months of mild pleasant weather
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:55 am to Corinthians420
quote:So you admit you’re a man made climate change advocate, yet you disagree with all their positions.
Wait I'm in the side of people that believe in manmade climate change and I believe none of the shite you just said haha.
Which doesn’t make you a man made climate change advocate. Man can affect the climate, but he isn’t the reason it’s warming up currently. It’s supposed to, we’re actually a little overdue for a warming spike if you look at the last half a million years of history.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:58 am to llfshoals
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So you admit you’re a man made climate change advocate, yet you disagree with all their positions.
Which doesn’t make you a man made climate change advocate. Man can affect the climate, but he isn’t the reason it’s warming up currently.
There are plenty of reasons it is warming up currently, man being among them
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:07 pm to Corinthians420
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That one always cracks me up, but were scientists in charge of putting up the signs?
Yes.
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find it hard to believe a scientist would give a hard date prediction on something like that
Really? You find it difficult? A simple google search shows dozen of reports by scientist claiming ice feee seas by mid 2030’s. And I’m not even looking for past reports.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:11 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Really? You find it difficult? A simple google search shows dozen of reports by scientist claiming ice feee seas by mid 2030’s. And I’m not even looking for past reports.
Nearly ice free seas by the mid 2030s is different than saying "this Glacier right here will be gone"
Forecast models and predictions are done on a percentage basis. They can tell me there is a 10% chance of me being rained on tomorrow but not where the rain will fall.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:12 pm to Corinthians420
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There are plenty of reasons it is warming up currently, man being among them
with math, can you show what % humans are causing the climate to change?
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:16 pm to bad93ex
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What percentage of our atmosphere is CO2?
Much less than 0.1% probably closer to 0.05%
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:17 pm to DawgCountry
NASA estimate is around ~2°F caused by man based on concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere and ocean temperatures.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:18 pm to GumboPot
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made a little table for the OT. It's starts at CO2 concentration of 415 and temp of 70 degrees F and calculates the new temperature at a new CO2 ppm. This assumes all other atmospheric gases are adjusted downward proportionally as CO2 concentration increases.
What equations did you use to calculate that?
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:19 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I don't remember the last year that wasn't predicted to go this way.
They say it every year.
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Sigh......no, they don't.
I want to come back to this. In another thread I have already proven that the "They always say this!" crowd is completely wrong about the CSU April Atlantic hurricane season forecast.
NOAA puts out their early forecast in May. They've done it in the current format since 1999. Their's is a little different in that they give odds of Below, Near Normal, Normal, and Above Normal. We don't have a reason to post the odds here, so I went with just how active they ultimately forecast the seasons to be.
In the past 24 May Atlantic hurricane season forecasts NOAA has predicted an Above Normal season 13 times and a Below/Near Normal/Normal forecast 11 times.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:22 pm to LegendInMyMind
Read up on Trapped Water Theory.
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