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re: Clemson University Requires All Freshman to Take New Social Justice Course

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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:32 am to
You can't debate undeniable facts. You're wrong. There is no argument. Fact.
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:33 am to
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Except in a very small % of the time, "right" shouldn't be qualified...Either you are right or you are not right.

Debating with you would make Broke very, very angry


I don't think debating with me would make anyone angry. I don't get mad, why should someone else? I'm sure I would hold my own.


Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:35 am to
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You can't debate undeniable facts. You're wrong. There is no argument. Fact.


This is true when facts are undeniable. The problem with your statement is I'm not wrong. The rest is true.

Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:37 am to
Good measure even though I think it might be a little too late.

If you really want to open these kids eyes and ears, it starts at home with their parents.

Their parents have to believe and see the importance of diversity of culture, thought and experience. If they don't it's gonna be much harder to influence the kids but it is possible. I see kids every day that reject the horribly racist/sexist/homophobic tenants of their parents
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:37 am to
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I don't get mad, why should someone else?


Because your communication skills are sub-standard. I have quoted two instances on the prior page. How can one debate you when you don't speak clearly?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34209 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:38 am to
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I am ready for one of these booger eating morons to start complaining that gravity oppresses him/her and whines to have the law repealled.

Well they were written by white men.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:38 am to
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This is true when facts are undeniable. The problem with your statement is I'm not wrong. The rest is true.


What do you not understand Here? You're wrong. You can't argue that. Fact.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:40 am to
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Good measure even though I think it might be a little too late.

If you really want to open these kids eyes and ears, it starts at home with their parents.

Their parents have to believe and see the importance of diversity of culture, thought and experience. If they don't it's gonna be much harder to influence the kids but it is possible. I see kids every day that reject the horribly racist/sexist/homophobic tenants of their parents


Good point.


The families of these white incoming students should be required to take in a financially disparaged person of color for a minimum of two years prior to their application.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:41 am to
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Good measure


lulz.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:43 am to
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If you really want to open these kids eyes and ears, it starts at home with their parents.


Everything starts and ends with the parents. Including blame for violent crime in the inner city.
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:44 am to
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Their parents have to believe and see the importance of diversity of culture, thought and experience. If they don't it's gonna be much harder to influence the kids but it is possible. I see kids every day that reject the horribly racist/sexist/homophobic tenants of their parents




This is absolutely correct, but I'm sure most will disagree with you just because that is what they always seem to do.

We don't seem to have much diversity in anything. Though Dad is far too right wing, he has a wide range of friends. Diversity can start with music, and Dad had a great appreciation of a wide range of music. But, too many people listen to only one type of music. There's no appreciation of jazz, blues, bop, soul, r and b among most whites my age or younger. Too many people listen to one type of music.



Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29822 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:45 am to
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I see kids every day that reject the horribly racist/sexist/homophobic tenants of their parents



Pity they aren't black.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45949 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:47 am to
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We don't seem to have much diversity in anything. Though Dad is far too right wing, he has a wide range of friends. Diversity can start with music, and Dad had a great appreciation of a wide range of music. But, too many people listen to only one type of music. There's no appreciation of jazz, blues, bop, soul, r and b among most whites my age or younger. Too many people listen to one type of music.





Am I the only one who reads all her posts in a mid-80's valley girl voice?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299283 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:47 am to
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Am I the only one who reads all her posts in a mid-80's valley girl voice?


Lisa Simpson
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29822 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:48 am to
Yes.

I just skip everything she writes.
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:48 am to
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Everything starts and ends with the parents. Including blame for violent crime in the inner city.
I don't think you understand the plight of the inner city.

You focus on the minority within the inner city who embrace gang and crime culture. You ignore the majority who want good schools, low crime, and decent housing. It is tough for someone to be raised with little money and opportunity but it can happen. I saw the interview with the LSU player (Darrell Guice?) who talked about how it wasn't an easy choice to go to a Catholic School and that he could have easily gotten into drugs or crime.

Instead, the response is always "blacks just want special treatment." No. They want recognition that they have problems that mainstream whites don't have.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:49 am to
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Will be in the SEC soon.



LSU office of Diversity

LINK

LSU's own Chief Diversity Officer

Dereck J. Rovaris, Sr., Ph.D., Vice Provost & Chief Diversity Officer

"Dr. Dereck Rovaris serves as Chief Diversity Officer for the University and is responsible for the University's diversity initiatives. - See more at: LINK
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:50 am to
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Am I the only one who reads all her posts in a mid-80's valley girl voice?
I have a throaty fairly deep voice I've been told I'd be a great phone sex girl.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299283 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:52 am to
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don't think you understand the plight of the inner city.


Faaaar more than you. I as adopted minority children. I also grew up poor.

The young man has gone from spec ed to honor roll.

Instead of reading about in sociology class and the Huffpo, some of us have practical experience.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 11:54 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77256 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:55 am to
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the importance of diversity of culture, thought and experience.
A false premise if you don't also critique and criticize all cultures as well, a concept which is not part of these "diversity courses".

What must be accepted and pushed is that some cultures are worse than others. That is an undeniable fact.

Good examples:

White trash culture should be be criticized at all turns. It is an abhorent culture.

Same goes for black trash culture.

Islamic culture should be berated and criticized at every possible moment.

Respecting and tolerating what are essentially pre-human advancement cultures is detrimental to society as a whole.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 12:01 pm
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