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re: Clemson University Requires All Freshman to Take New Social Justice Course

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Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
8664 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:09 am to
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Telling people what to do because they aren't "acting right" is the road to fascism

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This is simply not true and cannot be debated.

Adolph and a Benito would disagree.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 11:13 am
Posted by someLSUdoosh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
893 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:09 am to
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Diversity = opposing views


This is not what the progressives are preaching at all little miss snowflake.

The progressives/libertarians/what ever the hell you call yourself say Diversity = Non-White.

Its a war on straight white people (males mostly)

if you cant see that is what the "left" is preaching then you are crazy.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66097 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:10 am to
i think people just need to keep opinions to themselves. it would solve a lot.

why does their opinion matter? because they were coddled as a kid by shitty parents
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:10 am to
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Of course you can't debate it. You're not knowledgeable enough. You throw around labels without having the most remote idea of what they mean in the real world.


I debate it frequently and I win most of the debates. I respond with substance, and other than scruffy and even the sometimes insulting but usually thoughtful Gray, I get not substantive responses. Roger will respond to.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:11 am to
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Their idea of "libertarianism" is that they believe you are free as long as you only act, think, and speak a certain way.


This is what most of the left has become. They can say what you aren't allowed to say because they have moral righteousness on their side.

Case in point - the Hillary/DeBlasio CPT skit.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299261 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:11 am to
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I debate it frequently and I win most of the debates


We're going to introduce another word Here, delusion.
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:14 am to
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This is not what the progressives are preaching at all little miss snowflake.

The progressives/libertarians/what ever the hell you call yourself say Diversity = Non-White.

Its a war on straight white people (males mostly)

if you cant see that is what the "left" is preaching then you are crazy.


Really? The "war" on straight white people, "mostly" males," is a huge myth. We're talking about society's most privileged group. I like straight white males. There is no war and this is a fact that cannot be argued.



Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:15 am to
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Upperdecker


Dammit, you kinda checkmated me there. Luckily I'm not some kind of pussy who admits when he's wrong.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:15 am to
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Really? The "war" on straight white people, "mostly" males," is a huge myth. We're talking about society's most privileged group. I like straight white males. There is no war and this is a fact that cannot be argued.


It can be argued. We're arguing it right now. FACT.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299261 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:17 am to
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. I like straight white males


You fail the progressive litmus test.
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:18 am to
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This is what most of the left has become. They can say what you aren't allowed to say because they have moral righteousness on their side.

Case in point - the Hillary/DeBlasio CPT skit.


I don't think any politician, with very few exceptions, has "moral righteousness" on their side. They look out for themselves, lie about their positions, pander, etc.

I love President Obama, but he did the same - he was against marriage equality until it became politically expedient to embrace it.

I disagreed with Ron Paul on many issues, but I liked him because he told the truth about his positions. I used to strongly admire Bernie Sanders, and still do to some extent, but he also has made some political moves I didn't care for.

I get frustrated when those who have had advantages in their life (for example, me) don't recognize that certain groups generally have not had those advantages.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:21 am to
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don't think any politician, with very few exceptions, has "moral righteousness" on their side.


You could argue Bernie. But the only reason you could argue that is because he talks about wealth and actual privilege instead of race and sex-based emotional arguments.
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:22 am to
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We're going to introduce another word Here, delusion.


Delusional? No. Delusional are people who look up and say "oh, look at those lovely 'contrails' no one is dumping shite all over me" or "lets increase the EMF blasts all over our house" and "no one weaponizes cell phones." Now, this is the delusional people.

I don't want to get on a tangent, though I'm very right about this.

There is no war on white males.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77240 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:25 am to
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even the sometimes insulting but usually thoughtful Gray, I get not substantive responses. Roger will respond to.


Maybe they just don't understand what you are saying???
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33504 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:25 am to
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Dammit, you kinda checkmated me there. Luckily I'm not some kind of pussy who admits when he's wrong.

Then which kind of pussy are you?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:25 am to
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I don't think any politician, with very few exceptions, has "moral righteousness" on their side. They look out for themselves, lie about their positions, pander, etc

Of course they do. My example shows that two wealthy white people can stand on stage and joke about "colored people time" with zero negative ramifications because they are part of a political party that is "morally righteous" in it's cause. You think that skit doesn't explode if Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina act it out?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45945 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:26 am to
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Being a libertarian progressive,


What the fricking frick?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138916 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:27 am to
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though I'm very right about this.


You're wrong and there's no debate here whatsoever. FACT.
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77240 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:29 am to
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though I'm very right about this.


Except in a very small % of the time, "right" shouldn't be qualified...Either you are right or you are not right.

Debating with you would make Broke very, very angry.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 11:30 am
Posted by misstery
Member since Apr 2017
134 posts
Posted on 4/18/17 at 11:30 am to
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You're wrong and there's no debate here whatsoever. FACT.


I see your game here.

The difference here is that when I'm right because I have provided facts and factual opinions (thought not always in the same post) so I'm correct when I say that something is not debatable and is factual.

You just say it is a fact because you said it.

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