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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by cwil1
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 11:54 pm to
But I'm not lying about that. The Orphan Brigade and the 1stMissouri Brigade were regarded as the two best brigades in the west. On the confederate side. While Stonewalls brigade and Hood's Texans were considered the best in the east. This is verified historical fact.


Here....


In 120 days, from Dalton through the final days before Atlanta, the Orphans suffered the almost unbelievable losses of 123%. From Dalton, Georgia, when the brigade withdrew toward Atlanta with Sherman’s legions pressuring their rear and when the command boasted 1,512 officers and men strong, to Jonesboro, the Orphan Brigade recorded 1,860 cases of death and wounds, 23% more than there were men in those 5 peerless regiments! Men would be wounded, return to the brigade only to be wounded again and again, or killed. Less than 50 men were reported to have passed through the campaign without a wound. The rolls record only 10 men deserted their ranks in the 120 day campaign. The Battles of Dalton, Resaca, Pine Mountain, Kennesaw Mountain, Intrenchment Creek and Jonesboro are written in red with the blood of those Kentuckians.

Wrote historian Nathaniel S. Shaler,

“A search into the history of warlike exploits has failed to show me any endurance to the worst trials of war surpassing this. The men of this campaign were at each stage of their retreat going farther from their firesides. It is easy for men to bear great trials under circumstances of victory. Soldiers of ordinary goodness will stand several defeats; but to endure the despair which such adverse conditions bring for a hundred days demands a moral and physical patience which, so far as I have learned, has never been excelled in any other army.”[16]


Dying in the Last Ditch -- A good deal was heard about the determination of Southern men to die in the last ditch rather than submit to Northern domination; but the serious work of four years stopped a little (although comparatively little) short of this dire consummation. It is not extravagant to claim, however, that the main body of men who lived and fought till the struggle seemed to be hopeless would have gone to this extremity at the call of leaders whom they really trusted. The temper of the Kentucky soldiers during the last days, taken in conjunction with the fact that, several times before, they had refused to give ground without orders when imminent destruction stared them in the face, warrants the assertion that if, like Leonidas and his little band, they had been posted with orders to "guard the pass" against overwhelming odds, live or die, there would have been a virtual repetition of the old story that "none were left to tell the tale."




The brigade was formed with 5000 volunteers. By the end of the war, only 900 men remained as part of a mounted unit in the Carolina campaign, and yet they all passionately protested the inevitable surrender. They fought in just about every major battle in the west. From 1861 to 1865.









This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 11:58 pm
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6911 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:52 am to
Taylor was born in KY, but all the family roots were Va. however when his father was President they were both residents of Louisiana.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
6848 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:03 am to
Great great grandfather company 1, 8th Alabama infantry, which was all Irish
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 1:14 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105287 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:22 am to
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Option 2 was to join newly formed Union regiments made up of former confederate soldiers with the assurance of never having to take up arms against the confederacy. They were tasked with supply line upkeep well to the rear as Sherman made his initial push into GA


Many were sent west to garrison the frontier which had largely been abandoned during the war.
Posted by Idlpeach
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2003
1590 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 1:32 am to
My great-great grandfather was a survivor of the Sultana in 1865. He lost his entire family and is credited with saving at least 30 lives.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71142 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 2:28 am to
My great-great-great-great grandfather was an infantryman in the 31st Alabama and fought in the siege of Vicksburg. His brother was in the 14th Alabama and saw action against the 1st Minnesota at Gettysburg before being killed during the action at the Mule Shoe at Spotsylvania Court House on May 12, 1864.
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2434 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:49 am to
One 4th KY CO G, Orphan Brigade, fought from 61-65 ended up mounted infantry after unit practically wiped out at the battle of Jonesborough. Have his KY Rifle.
4ths flag is pretty iconic.

One was with Watson’s Battery CSA and was wounded 3 times. Have his artillery sword.
Another was in the Washington Artillery 5th company.

Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 5:55 am to
My ex wife’s grandfather(world war 2 vet) used to tell the best stories. His family was from Southern Georgia and he told us his grandfather used to play the piano when the union troops came through after burning down Atlanta he just set up an old hat next to the piano in an old tavern and played. He was young but he was the only one bringing home any kind of money at the time. My ex’s grandfather was 94 years old when he died and his world war 2 stories were awesome too. Save those for another day.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:05 am to
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Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22768 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:10 am to
My great, great, great grandfather was Raphael Semmes. He was a prominent Admiral in the Confederate Navy and briefly a professor at LSU. His ship was the CSS Alabama and was known for being a raider of Union vessels. He was briefly a brigadier general which made him the only Civil War officer who had both titles.

There was a song about the exploits of his ship titled “Roll Alabama Roll” which is believed to be origin of “Roll Tide.”

So you’re welcome….



Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1863 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 6:22 am to
On my dad's side, I have a great grandfather (I'm 71} who was a member of Mogan's Raiders. On mothers side most of her relatives were from southern Ga. and fought in Tn. and Ga. One was in Tx. when war broke out and he joined a calvary unit that was part of that ill-fated attempt to invade Ca. They got as far as eastern New Mexico and a union force that included Kit Carson stopped them.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
14043 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:01 am to
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Good lord you pussy arse liberals just never give it a break. This is a thread to talk about family members who took part in the war. Give your fricking crying a break. Good lord


That is actually exactly what my post was about...the number of soldiers who ran off the first time they had a chance, the number of people from the south who were loyal to the United States and why everyone is so enamored of the confederate soldier but almost no one recognizes the unionists in the south who remained loyal to their nation. Monuments everywhere to soldiers but I am not aware of a single one to unionists who suffered and died for their cause as well. STrange that....
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
10147 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 7:33 am to
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Well, do the math. You get 2 from each parent.


so progressive for their time...

they must have been founding fathers at John Deere
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71142 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:32 am to
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Monuments everywhere to soldiers but I am not aware of a single one to unionists who suffered and died for their cause as well. STrange that....


This is due to several reasons:

1. While there were staunch unionists who fought for the North from every Confederate state, they are eclipsed by the sheer number of pro-Confederate southerners who fought for the South.

2. The vast majority of monuments to the Confederacy went up in the late-19th century/early-20th century - a time when Lost Cause mythology was at its peak. I doubt very seriously there were any movements during this period to erect monuments to those soldiers whom those states considered "blood traitors."
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:48 am to
There was really no forgiveness, which I get, people would react the same way today.

Form the Wikipedia entry for George Thomas

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Many Southern-born officers were torn between loyalty to their states and loyalty to their country. Thomas struggled with the decision but opted to remain with the United States. His Northern-born wife probably helped influence his decision. In response, his family turned his picture against the wall, destroyed his letters, and never spoke to him again. During the economic hard times in the South after the war, Thomas sent some money to his sisters, who angrily refused to accept it, declaring they had no brother.[23]


quote:

On June 18, his former student and fellow Virginian, Confederate Col. J.E.B. Stuart, wrote to his wife, "Old George H. Thomas is in command of the cavalry of the enemy. I would like to hang, hang him as a traitor to his native state."
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:55 am to
Great-great grandfather on the maternal side was a prisoner of war captured at Vicksburg. Upon release he got drunk and missed his riverboat to take home down river. Good thing as the boat sank killing most onboard. He walked home from Vicksburg MS to Grand Caillou LA
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12246 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:01 am to
How fricking old are you that your grandfather fought in the civil war?

When they come asking for reparations, I'm gonna send em your way since you practically grew up on the battlefield and my Italian arse aint had shite to do with it.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12246 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:03 am to
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My ex’s grandfather was 94 years old when he died and his world war 2 stories were awesome too. Save those for another day.


If I start a new thread about WW2, will you share?
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
4192 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:09 am to
My great-great-grandfather fought in the Louisa Blues (part of the Army of Northern VA). He was shot twice and taken as a POW. He was forced to take an oath of allegiance to go back home.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
8512 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:11 am to
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The past is not that far behind us.


So true. I knew my MIL for 35 years. She knew her grandfather who was with the Army of Northern Virginia for the entire war for 20 years. Both of them lived well into their 90s.
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