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re: Civil-rights-era activist: Why are poor blacks failing in systems run by their own people?

Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by tetracarbon
Member since Sep 2019
227 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:58 pm to
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This is not a race, or even a economic status issue. This is a lifestyle problem. As long as fatherless homes and drug and crime culture are celebrated, this will continue.

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:59 pm to
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Welfare policies have done more to diminish the role of the father in the black community than anything else, but it's not a black only phenomenon. The same lack of responsibility exists across all races.


Everything is working as intended according to Lyndon Baines Johnson.

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74688 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 5:09 pm to
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"The question is, why are black kids failing in school systems run by their own people?"


It starts at home. Most folks don’t want to hear this truth. But it is still the truth. And until people accept this truth nothing will change.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33618 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:08 pm to
This is what voting for people like Sheila Jackson Lee and Maxine Waters for 50 years will get.

Keep voting Democrat black folks. It’s working so well for you.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
21258 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:12 pm to
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the sad fact is, the liberal politicians only seek money and votes. correcting the issues or truly making them better is secondary.


LBJ implemented communist programs to buy votes from the poor, while at the same time sending so many of them to their graves in a foreign land he knew he couldn’t change. Damn shame.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37017 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:15 pm to
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The question is, why are black kids failing in school systems run by their own people?"


Because democrats come in all colors.

Those black people that are running the schools are still democrats and that's where the problem is.

Are there any examples of success stories for democrats?
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4594 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:37 pm to
Did the title say anything about Egyptians
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71862 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:43 pm to
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In the past 50 years, $22 trillion has been spent on poverty programs.


You could have paid the bottom earning 10,000,000 people $44,000/year for 50 years.

Turn that into 10mm households and think of how much we wasted on "programs" with shite results.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 8:44 pm
Posted by tetracarbon
Member since Sep 2019
227 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:17 pm to
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and think of how much we wasted on "programs" with shite results

Wait 'til you see what we spend over the next year or two.

And sadly the only ones who benefit in the end will probably be the people getting paid to "educate" us during that time.
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7196 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:17 pm to
It’s what Thomas Sowell refers to as earmarked benefits and concealed losses. It reads as black “civil rights leaders” of today, as a minority, have to rely on white progressive political leaders for influence. This leads to special interest legislation being pushed and sought by black leaders rather than support for political goals that would benefit general society and blacks along with it. His most commonly cited argument is that unionization and minimum wage laws have had the biggest negative effect on blacks than any other group in America. Yet These laws are continually supported and voted affirmatively in by black politicians despite the known outcomes to their constituency. These negative outcomes are the concealed losses.

He further states that publicly declared political programs benefitting blacks causes polarization of the majority and rest of society. This is exactly the situation we are digging ourselves into now.

Civil Rights: Rhetoric or Reality by Thomas Sowell. Read it people.
Posted by tetracarbon
Member since Sep 2019
227 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:22 pm to
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publicly declared programs benefitting [IDENTITY POLITICS] causes polarization of the majority and rest of society
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 9:24 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36332 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:44 pm to
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"So many of those people taking office use this money to create a class of people who are running these cities, and now after 50 years of liberal Democrats running the inner cities, where we have all of these inequities that we have, race is being used as a ruse, as a means of deflecting attention away from critical questions such as why are poor blacks failing in systems run by their own people?"
The truth is more uncomfortable than this. Why are these snake oil salesmen race pimps and politicians so important to the black community? I know when I was a kid my daddy didn’t tell me to listen to what some two bit local politician had to say. I was taught that if I were going to succeed it would be in spite of the government, not because of it.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32409 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:54 pm to
Education starts at home when you're young. Kids who are molded to understand the importance of education, tend to do well.

You see poor kids all the time who's parents had a shite life but understood that importance and made it a big deal when raising kids. You also see the opposite end, rich kids who's parents were too busy with work to put effort and those kids don't do well.

The importance of the home > school IMHO
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 9:55 pm
Posted by tetracarbon
Member since Sep 2019
227 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:04 pm to
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I was taught that if I were going to succeed it would be in spite of the government

Some cultural groups view "gaming the system" for maximum benefits as a badge of honor and source of pride, not embarrassment.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28280 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:08 pm to
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I've been seeing this transition for years

Very much so... with income inequality consistently worsening, it’s not likely to get any better, any time soon, either, I’m afraid....
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28280 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:16 pm to
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"gaming the system" for maximum benefits

Honestly, this is not limited to any one race, or cultural group.... plenty of shitty human beings, across all colors, to go around.... unfortunately.... however, “gaming the system”, still, is not as wide spread and prevalent, as many seem to think it is... most people, in my experience that have and utilize government subsidies aren’t just dead beat leaches looking for handouts.... most of them are honest, have jobs, pay taxes, etc...
This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 10:17 pm
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32435 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:43 pm to
Ok.

So what do we do about it? What is a realistic plan of action that could actually happen in this environment to spurn long term change?

How do we change direction on the dead end road that we're hauling arse down with our lights off?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85590 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 10:44 pm to
Well this guy is about to be crushed as a racist. He’s no hero like George Floyd.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28280 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:11 pm to
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So what do we do about it?

The frick you asking me for? I’m in the same boat as you, being that neither one of us have any say so, any pull, nor any great plans.... I don’t worry about what other are getting.... I wake up everyday and concern myself with what I have, and that’s a beautiful wife, 2 healthy and happy kids, a little money in the bank, and breath in my lungs...
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32435 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 11:19 pm to
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The frick you asking me for? I’m in the same boat as you, being that neither one of us have any say so, any pull, nor any great plans



Well shite, I had to ask someone. You just happened to be the post above me.
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