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City of St George Question....

Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by captainahab
Highway Trio8
Member since Dec 2014
1680 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:58 pm
Can a neighborhood (i.e. Kennilworth or Magnolia Woods) petition to join the city of St. George and if so, would the existing citizens of St. George have to vote them in?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39215 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

Can a neighborhood (i.e. Kennilworth or Magnolia Woods) petition to join the city of St. George

Yes

quote:

would the existing citizens of St. George have to vote them in?


Pretty sure (95%) only those who are looking to join have to vote not the entire city of st George
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104448 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:03 pm to
Even if those neighborhoods are currently within Baton Rouge city limits?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53809 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:05 pm to
I think BR would have to allow them to be annexed. I'm not sure how that works in LA but you can be damn sure that it won't happen if the BR government has any say so.

We are in the same boat. My house is in BR. The end of our street is SG.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104448 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

We are in the same boat. My house is in BR. The end of our street is SG.


The first half of my street is in BR, the second half (including my house) is in no-man's land.

The first St. George attempt had us in, but the second attempt leaves us in unincorporated BR.

I asked a friend who's a property attorney about it and he said that in order to be annexed into St. George we'd have to have a contiguous connection to the existing St. George boundary, which would require more than just our neighborhood wanting in.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

I asked a friend who's a property attorney about it and he said that in order to be annexed into St. George we'd have to have a contiguous connection to the existing St. George boundary, which would require more than just our neighborhood wanting in.



That's right. We annex property pretty regularly, and it needs to be unincorporated and contiguous. We have had a some pretty interesting annexation proposals come to us which basically had to draw a maze of consenting property owners to get to the one who truly wanted annexation.

Cities mostly annex for the tax revenue. There'd be little incentive to annex for Joe Blow, who would now require the full panoply of City services with little return in the form of property tax. I could see a whole neighborhood of high-value homes being enticing though.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 3:18 pm
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12702 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:17 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/8/25 at 1:34 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45503 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

City of Baton Rouge annexed non-contiguous areas


They may have been non contiguous when they annexed them but trust me, they are becoming more contiguous every day. I hardly even go to the mall anymore.
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11723 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

ity of Baton Rouge annexed non-contiguous areas (e.g., Mall of Louisiana and Siegen Marketplace).


They actually got a straight line strip of properties out to them to make them contiguous.
Posted by captainahab
Highway Trio8
Member since Dec 2014
1680 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:41 pm to
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we'd have to have a contiguous connection to the existing St. George boundary, which would require more than just our neighborhood wanting in.


Looking at the Map, West of Bluebonnet (Knox Hill, Myrtles, etc.) could opt in then Wildwood, then Magnolia Woods, then Kennilworth.

Based on what your attorney buddy said, Magnolia Woods and Kennilworth would never be able to until the other subdivisions to the east opted in.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

City of Baton Rouge annexed non-contiguous areas (e.g., Mall of Louisiana and Siegen Marketplace).

Not true. State law dictates that annexed land must be contiguous with the rest of the city. Usually what they'll do for something like that is annex one street (and all the houses on it) that connects the blob they want to annex to the city so the borders remain contiguous. The city I grew up in annexed about a mile of highway when they built a Super Wal-Mart outside of the city limits to be able to get the Wal-Mart in the city limits for those sweet taxes. The greedy fricks didn't annex the neighborhoods that were on either side of the highway because then the city would have to lay water and sewer lines for them, provide police and fire protection, etc. No, they annexed just the actual paved highway. The real salt in the wound was the utility easement ran along the highway through all those people's front yards, so the city came through and tore up their yards to run the water and sewer lines out to the Wal-Mart. I'm still surprised the mayor or a city councilman or two weren't killed over that.

The state actually changed its law on this in 2012 precisely because cities are run by shady people and they will do shady shite unless you specifically tell them they can't.

“ No municipality may annex the paved portion of a public road without including in
such annexation all property adjacent to at least one side of the road, the paved
portion of which is included in the annexation. "
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 4:07 pm
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104448 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:08 pm to
Kenilworth and Magnolia Woods are in BR city limits though. Not sure how it works if they want out of BR and into St. George.

Probably doesn't work at all.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Kenilworth and Magnolia Woods are in BR city limits though. Not sure how it works if they want out of BR and into St. George.

Probably doesn't work at all.


I'm sure there's a way...just very difficult.
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7838 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:51 pm to
The C-P annexed a freaking drainage ditch to get to Siegen Village from the Mall of La.
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:52 pm to
What’s the update on St George? Is it happening or not?

Also, is there any scenario in the past or future where LSU could be included in St George? Is there a future possible scenario where Baton Rouge city limits are shrunk down so other new communities similar to St George can be created?
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

The C-P annexed a freaking drainage ditch to get to Siegen Village from the Mall of La.



Eh...it's a public ROW...which a private citizen could use to do the same if they wanted their property annexed.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17242 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

They actually got a straight line strip of properties out to them to make them contiguous.


Sort of...and it was shady as shite.
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