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re: Church shooting in SC***Update**Suspect Identified/Captured

Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:41 am to
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:41 am to
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@WhiteHouse: "Innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun." —@POTUS


No one asked how to prevent this from happening?

Seriously... How do we prevent him from legally obtaining a gun? Which he did.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465525 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:41 am to
we need to make shifts to monitor GLP

i bet it's real over there
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14823 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:42 am to
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wow

look, I'm not for gun control at all, but this statement is insanely stupid.


No it's not. If someone in the church had been carrying this guy would likely have been killed after only shooting a few people - not after shooting 9 people to death while reloading multiple times.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94734 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:43 am to
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If someone in the church had been carrying this guy would likely have been killed after only shooting a few people


Just like Luby's in Waco all those years ago.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118229 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:43 am to
It means false flag.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13445 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:43 am to
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/u/MrsHeisenberg tipped me off to something interesting. Roof's Facebook profile was made about a month ago, and people who were friends with him on Facebook claim not to know him. This could mean several things, or it could mean nothing. Seeing as the news seems to be slowing down, I thought I'd post this.

He knew what he was doing when he made his SA apartheid/Rhodesian jacket as his Facebook pic. He wanted people to see it.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
85873 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:44 am to
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No it's not. If someone in the church had been carrying this guy would likely have been killed after only shooting a few people - not after shooting 9 people to death while reloading multiple times.



Possible, but "more guns" isn't necessarily a good answer. It can be an answer, but too many people act like it's "the" answer.

Rather, "the answer" is that this is America, where we value liberty, including liberty to own tools to defend ourselves from crime and government aggression, and there are costs associated with that liberty. We will work in ways to limit those costs without infringing on the freedoms we value, but some costs will remain.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465525 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:44 am to
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This article has a camera 2 shot of him leaving in the car, as well as the camera 1 shot of him going in. I urge you to go to google maps and put in the address for this church. Interesting that it comes up with a different name, Mother Emmanuel, not odd, churches change names. But then look at the building vs the pictures. He entered through the Northwest corner if we are to believe camera 1, and his car is behind him, parked in the first spot next to that door, it's an angled spot. Camera 2 shot seems to show him backing out of another spot, which of course is on the North side of the building. If he's backing out of there, how did he get his car turned around and out that way? And if camera 2 is showing him coming not going, again he would have to do a multi point turn to get parked in that spot.

Rambling, but if you go to google maps and check it out vs the pictures in this article, I think you'll see what I'm saying. Something is not right.


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I think this whole thing is staged bullshite, it's the morning after, all of a sudden they have his facebook page, it's plastered all over the news, there are stories about a prior arrest.

Doesn't this seem to be moving a little fast folks?


quote:

the meme with "stormfront" is obvious

false flag all the way
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:44 am to
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@WhiteHouse: "Innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun." —@POTUS


didn't take long to jump on that
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3864 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:45 am to
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No it's not. If someone in the church had been carrying this guy would likely have been killed after only shooting a few people - not after shooting 9 people to death while reloading multiple times.



What are the odds, even with the most lax gun laws, that an African Methodist Episcopal prayer group on Wednesday night with 7 women (including the one who lived.. not sure if confirmed or not) and 3 men is going to include somebody carrying a gun?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29460 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:45 am to
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Huh? I was referring to the south as a whole (I live in Georgia). And I'm not sure Louisiana would be the obvious leader in that category anyway.




My bad, thought you meant south carolina.

In a north v south thing, I've seen way more dehumanizing acts toward black people up north than down south.

We took a road trip a few years ago and my buddy couldn't hail a cab for us while we paid out. We got outside and he was still standing there with no one around him. White people were literally getting as far away as possible from him on a sidewalk.

Pure idiocy.



I don't know if anyone has seen yet, half the shooter's facebook friends are black.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8182 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:46 am to
quote:

No it's not. If someone in the church had been carrying this guy would likely have been killed after only shooting a few people - not after shooting 9 people to death while reloading multiple times.




Thank you

More law abiding citizens need to be strapped. To stop these crazy animals in their tracks. That's the best defense to these shootings. Not some laws, tge guy felt the need to kill nine people, you think he gives a shite about a law. He could of used a bomb, or other devices as weapons
Posted by yellowhammer2098
New Orleans, LA
Member since Mar 2013
3864 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:47 am to
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I don't know if anyone has seen yet, half the shooter's facebook friends are black.



True but they also all claim to not know him IRL.
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8182 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:48 am to
quote:

What are the odds, even with the most lax gun laws, that an African Methodist Episcopal prayer group on Wednesday night with 7 women (including the one who lived.. not sure if confirmed or not) and 3 men is going to include somebody carrying a gun?




Times have changed, sadly it needs to be more common
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34882 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:48 am to
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@WhiteHouse: "Innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun." —@POTUS


frick the President for politicizing this tragedy.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41400 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Seriously... How do we prevent him from legally obtaining a gun? Which he did.


By banning guns...which is what the POTUS wants to do
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:51 am to
Anyone interested in helping out the church, you can easily donate through PayPal on their website.

LINK
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71996 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:51 am to
So now we are saying folks should carry guns to church. Got it. Look, the movie theatre? I get it. Armed guards at schools? I get it. But we shouldn't be pushing this narrative of "if someone in church had a gun, they could have prevented this."

I mean, come on. Church. We are talking about church.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 11:53 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71996 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:52 am to
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Sure it is, but not when
argued against gun control causing it



I agree that Obama's take on this is disgusting and shameful. But let's not fight stupidity with stupidity.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13995 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 11:52 am to
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By banning guns...which is what the POTUS wants to do


Not true. He just wants police and military to have them.

Which, of course, is never a good thing.

OH, and if you're in public service (prosecutor, judge, politician) you should be carrying.

Prosecutor friend of mine doesn't go outside of his house without carrying.
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