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Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:58 am to
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Could always, ya know...get rid of the guns





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Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:59 am to
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At the same time so many people are on antipsychotic meds that "mental illness" has become watered down in ways.


If I recall correctly, the Aurora shooter had gone off his meds and was self-medicating. You see this a lot in mentally ill patients when the best that we can provide them in terms of treatment are meds whether the side effects are not exactly optimal (i.e. sexual dysfunction, suicidal thoughts, etc) or they cannot afford those meds.

You also learn in psychology that some illnesses like schizophrenia are woefully under studied. A lot of the antipsychotics used to treat schizophrenia are some of the same ones that were introduced in the 50s. Add to it that the number of psychiatric facilities in this country has reduced significantly in the last few decades due to cuts in funding, it doesn't take much to figure out why we have such an issue with people with mental illness.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:59 am to
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Could always, ya know...get rid of the guns



even if it went into law people would bury/hide what they have or build them. There are as many guns as there are people. Plus It's not hard to forge a rifle and bullets.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:00 am to
Do you think these criminals have any intention of following these new 'gun laws'?
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:01 am to
Lanza and the Aurora guy would have both been lobotomized in the 50s. Bring it back. Lobotomies save lives.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:01 am to
There are more guns than people in the US.

They'll never go away.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:01 am to
Yeah, not so much.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:02 am to
No, you're right, we can't stop it. Just accept mentally ill mass murderers as part of our wonderful vibrant society.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:03 am to
Because that's totally what I said.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:03 am to
not a fan of that either.

Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:04 am to
I really want them to catch this frick before I call it a night.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10317 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:04 am to
Anyone have a link for Charleston police scanners?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107929 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:05 am to
I think they were telling earlier that North Charleston was the only one you could access online and it's not necessarily "in the area".
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:05 am to
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I really want them to catch this frick before I call it a night.



Don't count on it. This was planned well and that dude is gone. He might be in Georgia by now.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177209 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:07 am to
He's probably on a delta flight right now.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:07 am to
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Good majority of schizophrenics are non-violent and there's definitely some nuances to when someone should be committed. Civil liberties already being "fricked" shouldn't send us further down that rabbit hole.

That said, the conversation on addressing mental health in this country isn't as "sexy" as some other causes but should be at the top of the list of what we're addressing. Which is incredibly sad because mental illness doesn't discriminate. It's a human issue, not a race or gender issue.
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BluegrassBelle
I want you to post on the PoliBoard more.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:09 am to
They'd probably hate me on the Poliboard.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13998 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:10 am to
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PoliBoard


Don't do it. Quit poliboard a year ago and it's been awesome.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:10 am to
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Mental illness is too icky for some people to accept or discuss.
It's very, very hard to confront someone with a mental illness and tell them they have one without seeming to attack them, or be critical of them.

There's nothing wrong, at all, with having a mental illness. The problem is in getting treatment and acceptance. There's still a huge stigma against having a mental illness, as though the victim of the illness chose to have it. So rather than call it a mental illness, we either celebrate it as something other than that or push it under the rug, depending on the situation.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:10 am to
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They'd probably hate me on the Poliboard.
I know. I need your help.
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