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re: Church shooting in SC***Update**Suspect Identified/Captured
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:41 am to gatorrocks
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:41 am to gatorrocks
Maybe the solution is to go back to making it easier to have mentally ill people committed to state care. Civil liberties are already fricked. I've met schizophrenics and people who are just hopelessly fricked in the head. All it takes is one of them going off the rails to destroy a bunch of families, and traumatize an entire community.
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Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:42 am to yellowhammer2098
The Dallas shooting thread proved that a number of people have an agenda or a one track mind. I'm not shocked by anything posted here.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:45 am to JBeam
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The Dallas shooting thread proved that a number of people have an agenda or a one track mind. I'm not shocked by anything posted here.
Guess I'm just naive and overly optimistic. Can only speak for myself, though, in regards to my thoughts on the shooter. Carry on.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 12:46 am
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:46 am to wmr
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Maybe the solution is to go back to making it easier to have mentally ill people committed to state care. Civil liberties are already fricked. I've met schizophrenics and people who are just hopelessly fricked in the head. All it takes is one of them going off the rails to destroy a bunch of families, and traumatize an entire community.
Good majority of schizophrenics are non-violent and there's definitely some nuances to when someone should be committed. Civil liberties already being "fricked" shouldn't send us further down that rabbit hole.
That said, the conversation on addressing mental health in this country isn't as "sexy" as some other causes but should be at the top of the list of what we're addressing. Which is incredibly sad because mental illness doesn't discriminate. It's a human issue, not a race or gender issue.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:47 am to JBeam
Here's an easy way to practice empathy for those too callous to do so anymore.
Imagine it was your mother, father, grandparents, just going down to Wednesday night service, and some piece of shite walks in and kills everybody there.
There you go. Work with that. Try it. Empathy.
Perhaps that should be the first reaction rather than running every thing that happens through a political filter first.
Imagine it was your mother, father, grandparents, just going down to Wednesday night service, and some piece of shite walks in and kills everybody there.
There you go. Work with that. Try it. Empathy.
Perhaps that should be the first reaction rather than running every thing that happens through a political filter first.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:48 am to BluegrassBelle
This country has a massive problem with discussing mental illness. Not saying that this situation has anything to do with it. But the Aurora & Sandy Hook shooting are perfect examples.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:49 am to JBeam
Whoa, I missed this:
@amzilla22 1h1 hour ago
Mayor Riley just said the shooter came in bible study sat down for a while participated then got up & started shooting! #PrayForCharleston
thats just sick
@amzilla22 1h1 hour ago
Mayor Riley just said the shooter came in bible study sat down for a while participated then got up & started shooting! #PrayForCharleston
thats just sick
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:49 am to JBeam
Would Lanza's mother have agreed to have him committed if that had been an option? Or would she have insisted that he be treated with "equality" in order that he not be "stigmatized"?
That's a good question.
That's a good question.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:50 am to JBeam
We can't even treat people who want to mutilate their genitalia and play pretend as mentally ill hazards. They are instead celebrated.
Mental illness is too icky for some people to accept or discuss.
Mental illness is too icky for some people to accept or discuss.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:51 am to GEAUXmedic
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Mayor Riley just said the shooter came in bible study sat down for a while participated then got up & started shooting! #PrayForCharleston
Definitely didn't hear him say that. Unless he was talking off camera to people, which is possible. Seems like they were keeping things tighter to their chest though.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:52 am to JBeam
A big problem with that is its hard to imagine what illnwas motivates a guy to shoot 20 children dead or walk into a church/theater and open fire. And the anger from to such events makes people say "they may not be right in the head, but frick them anyways". At the same time so many people are on antipsychotic meds that "mental illness" has become watered down in ways.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:52 am to wmr
Yeah but a lot of these guys arent diagnosed as mentally ill.
Look at McVeigh. Dude was fricked up but not ever given an official diagnosis of anything medical before the bombings.
He just hated the government so much that he decided to commit mass murder.
Look at McVeigh. Dude was fricked up but not ever given an official diagnosis of anything medical before the bombings.
He just hated the government so much that he decided to commit mass murder.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:52 am to yellowhammer2098
I saw someone suggest that on reddit but it was 3rd hand info so who knows right now
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:53 am to GEAUXmedic
quote:Well this will be all over the morning news
@amzilla22 1h1 hour ago
Mayor Riley just said the shooter came in bible study sat down for a while participated then got up & started shooting! #PrayForCharleston
Neverthless, holy frick that is evil.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:53 am to Tiguar
Problem number one is that there's no objective truth left in our culture.
Insanity defenses can go the frick away, while we're on the subject. There's a similar piece of shite in Colorado who, regardless of his "alleged capacity", should be punished for similar heinous actions. Didn't know right from wrong when he murdered? Perhaps he'll understand the concept when they insert the IV into his arm in the execution chamber.
Insanity defenses can go the frick away, while we're on the subject. There's a similar piece of shite in Colorado who, regardless of his "alleged capacity", should be punished for similar heinous actions. Didn't know right from wrong when he murdered? Perhaps he'll understand the concept when they insert the IV into his arm in the execution chamber.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:55 am to JBeam
Would be sad to see metal detectors in doors of churches.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:55 am to JBeam
Definitely. We don't do enough to combat this.
People are becoming zombies on meds which is worsening the situations.
No one is interested in solving the issues anymore. They want to prescribe something and move on.
That's a generalization but I've seen it first hand.
People are becoming zombies on meds which is worsening the situations.
No one is interested in solving the issues anymore. They want to prescribe something and move on.
That's a generalization but I've seen it first hand.
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:56 am to SEClint
Could always, ya know...get rid of the guns
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:58 am to wmr
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mother have agreed to have him committed
Mothers aren't really the best people to ask if their kids are bad / crazy.
Look at most murders in NOLA. All those kids are good kids according to their moms
Posted on 6/18/15 at 12:58 am to tigerfan88
Even if you could snap your fingers and remove all guns, you would not solve the etiologic factor.
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