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re: China now holds Nuclear Fusion record - 1000 seconds
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:15 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:15 am to GetCocky11
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If it ever works, it'd be by far the best combination of clean and efficient energy we could have
Because we all know China is deeply concerned about clean energy.
Wonder what they really want to do with it...
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:18 am to UptownJoeBrown
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Don’t believe anything China says.
They’re pretty honest when they etched the “made in China” on their products and we buy it up like it’s no tomorrow. China had gotten so big that I dont think they give a shite if anyone believes it or not.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:20 am to LSUBFA83
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Because we all know China is deeply concerned about clean energy.
Not clean energy but a limitless supply of energy is the goal here whomever perfects this process first will have the inside lane for establishing themselves as a superpower in the world.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:23 am to LSUBFA83
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Because we all know China is deeply concerned about clean energy.
I think they just want the energy period. Clean I’m sure is just a small bonus.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:24 am to bad93ex
Thank you. Obviousdly something I have zero knowledge of. 
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:28 am to DarthRebel
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Assuming you believe them
How many nuclear-powered submarines and aircraft carriers do they have?
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:31 am to Clames
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How many nuclear-powered submarines
12
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aircraft carriers
They were working on one in 2024
China Nuclear-powered aircraft carrier
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:31 am to Odysseus32
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Explain it to me like I’m an idiot.
There is A LOT of energy between protons and neutrons. We traditionally release and control that energy through fission at nuclear power plants. The problem with fission it releases a lot of harmful radiation that is dangerous to biological life. So that is the challenge. The byproducts are different elements and a lot of radio active waste.
The opposite of fission is fusion. Fusion is how our sun produces energy. The sun takes two protons, usually called hydrogen, and fuses them together through tremendous temperature and gravity to make helium. Energy is released in that process as the entire electromagnetic spectrum which a very small percentage is visible light.
This Chinese firm is trying to create a micro sun. A small fusion reactor. I have not read the article but I highly suspect they are using focused lasers on some type of hydrogen encapsulation to turn hydrogen into helium and as long as the energy emitted exceeds the energy consumed, we have a power plant. The beauty of fusion is there is no radioactive waste products.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:36 am to Cuz413
Fission - splitting an atom. Doesn't take a long time, is the detonator of an atomic bomb.
Fusion - combining atoms. Very difficult, is a chain reaction, happens with an atomic bomb.
If you pay attention during Oppenheimer, the first chapter is Fission (bottom left corner of the screen) and isn't very long because the process of fission doesn't take long, relatively speaking. The second chapter is Fusion, and last almost the whole movie, because it takes way longer, again relatively speaking, to accomplish.
ELI5:
Imagine you have a big toy block, and you want to break it into smaller pieces. If you hit it really hard and it cracks into two pieces, that's like fission. You're breaking one big thing into two smaller things.
Now, imagine you have two smaller toy blocks, and you push them together until they stick and become one big block. That's like fusion. You're taking two small things and making one big thing.
Fusion - combining atoms. Very difficult, is a chain reaction, happens with an atomic bomb.
If you pay attention during Oppenheimer, the first chapter is Fission (bottom left corner of the screen) and isn't very long because the process of fission doesn't take long, relatively speaking. The second chapter is Fusion, and last almost the whole movie, because it takes way longer, again relatively speaking, to accomplish.
ELI5:
Imagine you have a big toy block, and you want to break it into smaller pieces. If you hit it really hard and it cracks into two pieces, that's like fission. You're breaking one big thing into two smaller things.
Now, imagine you have two smaller toy blocks, and you push them together until they stick and become one big block. That's like fusion. You're taking two small things and making one big thing.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:37 am to bad93ex
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Not clean energy but a limitless supply of energy is the goal here whomever perfects this process first will have the inside lane for establishing themselves as a superpower in the world.
There's no secret how to accomplish this. Once one country achieves it, others will quickly follow. If anything,, it will eliminate the source of most of the conflict in the world. With unlimited energy there's no more scarcity of any kind of resource or material..
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:37 am to VABuckeye
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I wonder what man-made device can hold something at those temperatures without melting? May be time to utilize the Google machine some.
Magnetic containment of the plasma. There can still be degradation of the walls of the unit. That has been one of the most difficult challenges.
TOKAMAK is a Russian acronym for "toroidal chamber with magnetic coils".
Those have been around since the 50s.

Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:37 am to GumboPot
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The beauty of fusion is there is no radioactive waste products.
What happens when a fusion reactor fails?
This post was edited on 1/22/25 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:42 am to LSUBFA83
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Wonder what they really want to do with it...
Pure Nuclear Fusion is not something that can be weaponized easily, if at all. We already have fission-fusion bombs, where fission creates enough pressure to create a fusion explosion. Pure fusion without a fission explosion to create the pressure is not really a possibility, at least with enough yield to justify the complexity and weight.
Fusion is really the hopeful next step to clean energy. Magnets are used to compress atoms together. Hydrogen isotopes are the preferred and produce Helium and release energy (heat). Helium 3 though is what they want, which is very non-existent on Earth, but believed to be abundant on the Moon.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:52 am to 1BamaRTR
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Yeah it's not like an independent source can fact check them
We had a team of scientists observing, but they all quit and went home. They tired quickly of all the peepee in their cokes.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:54 am to bad93ex
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12
And every one of them using outdated technology compared to the US's oldest active-service models. We have well over 100 nuclear subs.
China lies about every "technological advancement" they make. They lie about chip manufacturing, EV's, high-speed trains, critical infrastructure, military technology/capabilities, etc. All propaganda, all the time.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:09 am to UpInSmokeDownDaBayou
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What happens when a fusion reactor fails?
The reaction stops.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:38 am to GetCocky11
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If it ever works, it'd be by far the best combination of clean and efficient energy we could have
Which means we will never see it in the U.S. as the fossil fuel industry will claim it is unsafe and will destroy all life as we know it.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:45 am to Clames
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And every one of them using outdated technology compared to the US's oldest active-service models. We have well over 100 nuclear subs.
You asked and I answered.
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China lies about every "technological advancement" they make. They lie about chip manufacturing, EV's, high-speed trains, critical infrastructure, military technology/capabilities, etc. All propaganda, all the time.
No disagreement here.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:55 am to Cosmo
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This is where we should be spending billions of govt dollars on research
Indeed. Its the most sustainable solution.
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Indeed. Its the most sustainable solution.
The politicians haven't figured out how to enrich themselves off of it yet.
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