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China Discovers the Price of Global Power: Soldiers Returning in Caskets

Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:50 am
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:50 am
Really eye-opening and heartbreaking story. Really not political but more a human interest piece.

LINK

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On his 22nd birthday, Corporal Li Lei sent a WeChat update from a United Nations compound in South Sudan. A firefight between government forces and rebels had erupted in the capital, Juba, and threatened to engulf the camp where his Chinese peacekeeping force was standing guard. His birthday wish, sent on the messaging app on July 8 with a picture of a blue U.N. helmet and helicopters overhead: “That all my comrades remain safe.” It was the last his friends and family back home heard from him. Two days later, a rocket-propelled grenade hit Cpl. Li’s armored vehicle, witnesses and the Chinese military said. He died two hours later. A colleague, Sgt. Yang Shupeng, died the next day.

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The pain was amplified by Cpl. Li’s youth and devotion to family. Born under China’s one-child-per-family policy, he grew up without siblings and, at 13, lost his father to cancer. He enlisted four years later to help support his mother.

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Young soldiers often come home in coffins, a heartbreaking reality for any nation that sends its military on missions abroad. It’s a familiar one to families in America and many other countries—and a new thing to many Chinese. The deaths represented China’s first combat troops killed in action since border clashes following its last war, with Vietnam in 1979, after which it espoused nonintervention in affairs abroad.The effect within China is not something we’ve seen before,” said Wang Hongyi, a former Chinese diplomat and peacekeeper at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. The Juba casualties “had major repercussions—in government, in the military and in society.” When state television broadcast images of Chinese infantry under fire in Juba, struggling to save bleeding comrades, many viewers at home were stunned. Few in China understood the risks, including Cpl. Li’s family in Fuxing, a placid kiwi-farming village near the Tibetan plateau. His mother, Yang Bin, asked before he deployed if the work would be dangerous. “China is so powerful, who can bully us Chinese people?” her son replied, she recalled as she sat on a threadbare sofa in her rundown concrete home. “So our minds were set at ease.”


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Inside China’s government, differences have emerged about how to use the military overseas, said people familiar with the discussions. The prevailing view in the foreign ministry, they said, is that China should rapidly expand peacekeeping activities to show global leadership, as Mr. Xi demands. Many military commanders, they said, by contrast want to move more slowly, conscious of their troops’ lack of experience and sensitive to domestic and international criticism.


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The Chinese military dispatched an ambulance. Inside it, a Chinese soldier tried to keep Cpl. Li conscious. “Leilei hold on, hold on,” the soldier recalled saying in a television interview. Cpl. Li was pronounced dead at 8:43 p.m.






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The military delivered his belongings, most of which sit in canvas bags in his room—bedding, toiletries, a few clothes. There is also his diary. An entry reads: “If one day I’m gone, don’t miss me. I chose this. I have no regrets.”
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45189 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:54 am to
Certainly sad, but what is a "Chinese peacekeeping force"?
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5328 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:55 am to
Thanks for the story.

People all over the world have been suffering this shite since the beginning of time. In a lot of cases for nothing. Or for religion or national pride, which is to say, for nothing. War is a fricking terrible thing.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:57 am to

I didn't realize there was another large conflict between N and S Sudan rebels currently. Guess it will never end over there.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 8:59 am to
Lucky for China they have about a 60 million men surplus.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7881 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:02 am to
build that fricking wall!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:10 am to
China's increased interest and investment in Africa will ensure there will many more stories like this in the future.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:11 am to
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People all over the world have been suffering this shite since the beginning of time. In a lot of cases for nothing. Or for religion or national pride, which is to say, for nothing. War is a fricking terrible thing.


Pretty much. We've been in wars to protect our way of life, then turn around years later and elect people who hope to tear our way of life apart.

Fathers, sons, mothers, and daughters lives ruined for words, ideas, or just bullshite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:13 am to
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His mother, Yang Bin, asked before he deployed if the work would be dangerous. “China is so powerful, who can bully us Chinese people?” her son replied, she recalled as she sat on a threadbare sofa in her rundown concrete home. “So our minds were set at ease.”

that's the most Chinese thing you'll hear all day
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:14 am to
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but what is a "Chinese peacekeeping force"?

i'm sure it's just your typical UN peacekeeping deployment

seems that China is joining in on the fun





light blue helmets = UN
This post was edited on 11/16/16 at 9:15 am
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:19 am to
It's gotta be tough losing your child in any circumstances, but could you imagine losing them in a peacekeeping operation in some god forsaken crap hole that has nothing to do with the safety of your country?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:25 am to
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i'm sure it's just your typical UN peacekeeping deployment


Sooooo.....rape. Lots and lots of rape
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60075 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:30 am to
Another good reason to shut down the un

Who gives a shite if they're fighting in South Sudan
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 11/16/16 at 9:56 am to
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It's gotta be tough losing your child in any circumstances, but could you imagine losing them in a peacekeeping operation in some god forsaken crap hole that has nothing to do with the safety of your country?



Yep. And the politicians ALWAYS have a different agenda from the generals. Even in a totalitarian country like China:

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Inside China’s government, differences have emerged about how to use the military overseas, said people familiar with the discussions. The prevailing view in the foreign ministry, they said, is that China should rapidly expand peacekeeping activities to show global leadership, as Mr. Xi demands. Many military commanders, they said, by contrast want to move more slowly, conscious of their troops’ lack of experience and sensitive to domestic and international criticism.
This post was edited on 11/16/16 at 9:58 am
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