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re: Chicago's Toxic Lead Pipe Problem

Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:35 am to
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Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57529 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:43 am to
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Wow you are fricking ignorant. Lead is universally known to be extremely dangerous, there isn't even a counter argument to be made. Way to make yourself look like a moron, boomer.



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Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:00 am to OysterPoBoy


Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13298 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:46 am to
Friend,

This does not surprise me. Chicago is a terrible place. It brags about its tap water sourced from the deep waters of Lake Michigan, but any discerning New Orleanian, raised on the pure waters of the N.O. S&WB could sense the impurities of that abominable place. Everything looks great on the surface, which only hides the depravity deep within. New Orleans is quite the opposite. We are happy to expose our failings because we have an inside of gold.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:00 am to
I guess my question is why are Cities paying for the cost of this? Homeowners are responsible for the line from the meter to the home. Most places required these lines to be replaced when construction improvements are made. Think about the the logistics for a minute.. street trees, sidewalks, other utilities, foundation issues, etc. There will be so many tort claims with this it will never end. Any foundation issues in the future and people are going to claim it was done when they installed the new water line. There is a reason the municipalities responsibility ends at the meter.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:11 am to
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I guess my question is why are Cities paying for the cost of this? Homeowners are responsible for the line from the meter to the home. Most places required these lines to be replaced when construction improvements are made. Think about the the logistics for a minute.. street trees, sidewalks, other utilities, foundation issues, etc. There will be so many tort claims with this it will never end. Any foundation issues in the future and people are going to claim it was done when they installed the new water line. There is a reason the municipalities responsibility ends at the meter.



From looking at the actual slides, they are only replacing the service lines to the meter. Sounds like you are more concerned with the portion of the service line that crosses the property boundary before getting to the meter.
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5839 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:19 am to

NOLA Sewage and Water Board is just now planning to start inventorying the extent of lead pipe in their supply lines. I believe lead lines are pretty extensive judging by the mayors that are elected.





This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 11:47 am
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1562 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:30 am to
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Next year the city estimates it will replace only 750 of the roughly 400,000 lead service lines

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Most of the $19 million earmarked for next year

So $25k per line? Sounds about right.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31317 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:35 am to
I live in Chicago. Could be me. Makes me try to think.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:38 am to
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I live in Chicago. Could be me. Makes me try to think.


I work in repairing pipe / replacing pipe (don't do a lot of water pipe though), but I sent this to my business developer because I'm sure we would be interested in the water mains, but not the service lines.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203544 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:44 am to
Yet just 60 miles to the north, Midland has some of the finest water in all the country with a huge chemical plant as its base employer..... they did it right from the start.....
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:52 am to
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From looking at the actual slides, they are only replacing the service lines to the meter. Sounds like you are more concerned with the portion of the service line that crosses the property boundary before getting to the meter.


Went back and looked at the slides. It appears they are picking a location for the box where the ownership will transfer. Will be interesting to see where this "B-Box" ends up being installed.

I will say this, if you have an older home you should make sure you don't have lead pipes. If you do, you can let the water run a little before you use it for drinking to flush the pipes. It is still a good idea to have the pipes removed though.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by texn
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Member since Nov 2019
3515 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:56 am to
2 pages and no jokes about laying pipe. OT is slipping
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:56 am to
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I could be mistaken but the term service line is the portion from the meter to the home. Everything upstream of that is part of the distribution line (I think technically it changes at the curb/corp stop, not the meter). It is also the service line where pipe containing lead is usually found. Usually the only place you find it in distribution lines are in extremely old sections in older downtown areas.





This is the exact illustration from the presentation.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12641 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 12:06 pm to
None of this surprises me. Most people would freak out if they knew the status of their energy and water infrastructures.
Posted by rowbear1922
Lake Chuck, LA
Member since Oct 2008
15182 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 12:08 pm to
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None of this surprises me. Most people would freak out if they knew the status of their energy and water infrastructures.


This is the reason I have a job.
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