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re: Chicago Teacher’s Union plans strike despite being offered 16% raise

Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:31 am to
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12216 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 7:31 am to
How in the blue-blooded hell can their gubment (sic) offer that big a raise, or any raise for that matter, when they are saddled with a multibillion dollars shortfall in pensions that are already owed by that city?

Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1766 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:12 am to
One thing no one every talks about with teachers. If you take a teacher's total compensation thru retirement, not just the fact they only work 10 months out of the year, they are paid very well. 30 years and they get what 75% of the average of their last 5 years pay for the rest of their life and full medical benefits?
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21190 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:18 am to
Obscene - beyond outrageous
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28721 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:23 am to
Pensions are not sustainable. 90% of Fortune 500 companies found out the hard way. Most were axed in the early 2000's. The government gets away with it because tax paying citizens without business sense are ignorant to how much pensions cost and won't vote it out.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
20245 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:26 am to
Holy frick!

I want that job.

I will gladly take that pay and have every summer off, a week at fall break, thanksgiving, spring break, and 2 weeks for Christmas.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35970 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:28 am to
As a teacher, let me go ahead and assure everyone that no one goes into teaching for the pay. Part of the trade off for less pay is having extended time off and a pension afterwards (a lot of incorrect info on that here, teachers pay into that). Plus teachers put in a lot more than 40 hours a week during the school year. So it kind of evens out.

Either way, a living wage commensurate to a job requiring a four year degree is still a necessity. I’m not sure how far 100k goes in Chicago. I know other big cities like Seattle and Oakland are having issues with public sector employees being able to find housing in the areas they work.

In NWLA, I could barely make it off of the 2500 a month I pull in as a teacher by myself much less supporting kids. Glad alajones2 works also.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35970 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I want that job


You think you’d make it more than 2
Hours in a Chicago public school?
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:29 am to
Do all these teachers that constantly complain about their salaries do not know what they were getting into when they decided to enter the profession?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24346 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:33 am to

For a 16% raise, I'd stop posting here during work hours.
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
5444 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:36 am to
I come from a long line of teachers. 3 of my 4 grandparents taught forever, both my in-laws, my parents. They all complained. I knew I never wanted to teach. It's miserable. I've never seen or heard of any teacher who doesn't complain. Oh we've got to go back, oh break can't come fast enough, oh blah blah.

Can't stand the complaining. Do something you enjoy or shut up.
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
14912 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:55 am to
Teaching sounds like a shitty enough job in itself.

In an inner-city Chicago public school? Fuuuuuck that.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141134 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 8:57 am to
Chicago
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 9:01 am to
quote:

For a 16% raise, I'd stop posting here during work hours.


all we're talking about on here is the 16% raise, for all we know, they were offered a 16% raise in exchange for givebacks in other areas that far exceeded the 16%, i.e. reduction in paid sick time, increased cost in health benefits, or elimination of health benefits, etc., always more to the story
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68603 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 9:07 am to
quote:

don't care themselves.

That's a pretty big brush but there's a shitload of truth to it.....but it isn't the truth in certain neighborhoods.

quote:

In Chicago (and some other areas) Teacher Pay should at least be equal to Prison Guard pay




Never thought of it that way
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99037 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Teacher Pay should at least be equal to Prison Guard pay.


I think that’s the case pretty much anywhere.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Teacher Pay should at least be equal to Prison Guard pay.


quote:

I think that’s the case pretty much anywhere.


probably close but I'd bet the teachers make a little more
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 9:24 am to
If they are truly turning down the raise for more nurses and librarians, I can support it.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99037 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 9:25 am to
They make a lot more here

It’s about 30% more
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 9:25 am to
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Base the raise on student performance.


Not even close to fair for the teachers.... you really think that student performance is 100% on the teachers? Its not even close.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
That Overweight Racist State
Member since Mar 2011
18700 posts
Posted on 10/8/19 at 9:26 am to
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You think you’d make it more than 2 hours in a Chicago public school?


None of these keyboard warriors would make it more than 30 minutes in a Chicago Public School

quote:

I come from a long line of teachers. 3 of my 4 grandparents taught forever, both my in-laws, my parents. They all complained. I knew I never wanted to teach. It's miserable. I've never seen or heard of any teacher who doesn't complain. Oh we've got to go back, oh break can't come fast enough, oh blah blah. Can't stand the complaining. Do something you enjoy or shut up.


I went to a college that was a big Education School... when I was dating, I never dated an Education major more than 1 date. It honestly takes a special kind of crazy person to be a teacher, I'm glad they exist, I just couldn't take the stress that, that kind of person brings to the table.
This post was edited on 10/8/19 at 9:30 am
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